Minutes - 1996 - Planning & Zoning - 08/05/1996 - Regular
EAGLE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES
August 5,1996
The Eagle Planning and Zoning Commission met in regular session on August 5,
1996. Chairman BRINTON presiding.
The following members were present:, DONALD BRINTON, RUSSEL MAYER,
COLLEEN MAILE, FARRIN FARNWORTH. ABSENT: Bert Bradley
Moved by FARNWORTH and Seconded by MAILE to approve the minutes of the July 15,
1996, meeting as corrected. ALL AYE: MOTION CARRIED.
Moved by Mayer and Seconded by Maile to move the Ada County Transmittals to before
the Public Hearing. ALL AYE: MOTION CARRIED
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: Fuerte de la Aguila
Moved by MAILE and Seconded by MAYER to accept the Findings and Facts and
Conclusions of Law in the matter of the Fuerte de la Aguila. ALL AYE: MOTION
CARRIED
Unfinished Business
A. Ada County Transmittal:96-15-PR, Application for Private Road. Staff recommended
approval of this transmittal. No one was present to speak on this transmittal. MAILE
questioned the Ada County requirements of a 45' radius culdesac at the end of a private
road and if this applicant will have to meet this condition. Staff advised that this item has
been taken care of and will be required.
Moved by FARNWORTH and Seconded by MAILE to approve Ada County Transmittal
96-15-PR, Application for Private Road, Kathy A. Ellensohn, extending a private road and
additional 100 ft. at 4648 Old Valley Road, Eagle, Idaho, and will allow access to a 7.08
acre single dwelling lot. ALL AYE: MOTION CARRIED
B. Ada County Transmittal: 96-61-CU Eagle Sewer District
Staff: This item is not with in the City of Eagle or the City of Eagle Impact Area and is out
the official purview for official comments and requirements if there is any, however since
this effects the sewer service for the City of Eagle, staff felt it important to give a
recommendation of approval to Ada County unofficially. Ada County did send the
transmittal to the City of Eagle for the review and recommendations. Brinton would like it
noted that at the end of five years they will have to vacate these basins and their existing
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basins. With no plan at this time for another area.
Moved by MAILE and Seconded by MAYER to approve Ada County Transmittal 96-61-
CU Eagle Sewer.District , Conditional Use Application for two High Rate Land Application
ponds for treating disinfected effluent water. Property contains 30 acres located west and
adjacent to Palmer Lane, Eagle Idaho. ALL AYE: MOTION CARRIED
PUBLIC HEARING:
Chairman BRINTON announced it is the time and the place for the continuation of a Public
Hearing regarding the application by the City of Eagle for Amendments to Title 6-Parks
Committee, Title 7 -Sign Regulations, and Title 8-2-A Design Review Codes, and the
Design Review Guideline Manual.
ApplicantCity of Eagle
Proposal: Amendments to Title 6-Parks Committee, Title 7-Sign Regulations, and Title
8A Design Review Codes. Design Review Guideline Booklet.
Location: City of Eagle
Staff Report: Mark Butler. Overview of the staff report (included in the record). Staff
recommends that pages 22 through 23 including the graphics in the Design Review
Guideline Booklet should be adopted with the amendments to Title 8-2-A. But the Design
Review Guideline Booklet should not be approved at this time. The Staff recommended
to not adopt the Downtown Development Plan but to accept it as a report available to the
City as an informational document.
Testimony:
Larry Sale
Ada County Highway District
General comments. Significant concerns regarding certain aspects of Downtown Plan.
Modification of street sections on Eagle Road and Eagle Road State Street intersections.
After construction of alternate route State Street will still carry significant volumes of traffic,
About the same as right now. Types of traffic will be different. Eagle Road is the only
road in the County that extenteds from the North to South part of the County. Important
to the County that Eagle Road carries some significant amount of cross county traffic.
Requests that the City makes sure of its intent for Eagle Road and State Street. County
raises serious objection to pedestrian roads at the corner of this intersection. Where
possible the District will take the City's Design Review guidelines into consideration but
they do have to protect public safety before they do that.
Specific comments begin on Page 2 of the July 22nd Draft of the Ordinance. District has
marked suggested changes. Changes and suggestions on Pages 6, 13, 15, 16, 20, and
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21. Explained drainage system in Eagle. Three lane road to Floating Feather with
Restricted parking from Floating Feather to State Street. Further comments on parking,
sidewalks and roadways. State will reconstruct Eagle Road with five lanes from Fairview
to the alternate route.
Bill Ditz
673 W. Fordham
Eagle, Idaho
Dealing with July 22nd Draft of Ordinance. Page 7, Section B, No.2. The materials used
in signs should not be limited to wood material and should include products that are now
on the market that have a longer life.
Does Albertson's sign conform to new sign standards? Mark Butler responds: Approved
prior to Moratorium, previous ordinance would apply.
Page 9, Section H, Master Sign Plan. The City should not be able to make a tenant
remove the sign until there was a change in the business, not in ownership.
Page 20 of Draft. Lot Coverage by the Structure. There needs to be a definition of one or
two story buildings. The City needs to understand the required lot coverage in the
proposed ordinance and the impact on parking. It should be closer to 20 to 25% instead
of 40%. The City should give serious consideration to changing to 20 or 25% in all the
proposed areas.
Ron Marshall
380 E. State
Eagle, Idaho
There should be a line drawn between the Downtown Development Plan and Design
Review. There are a lot of differences between the two plans. Ron is basically in favor or
the Design Review Ordinance but also feels that the sign issue at this time is totally out of
hand. The intent of the old Design Review Committee was only to review the downtown
area, not the whole City of Eagle, and that it should just be in the downtown area.
Sean Nord
5890 E. State
Eagle, Idaho
Ordinance of July 22, Page 7-8, No.4, Signage. The City should change the word
"facade" to "face" of the building, in the past the facade was the gable. The percentage of
15% should be looked at differently if the face of the building is the whole area of the
building.
Mary Gray
4238 N. Purple Ridge
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Eagle, Idaho
Confusion of the two documents, The Design Review Guideline Manual and the Downtown
Development Plan. She also was concerned on how they would be combined.
Don Belts
Landscape Architect
Jensen-Belts
The Committee would like the Planning & Zoning Commission to accept and implement
their report, with the changes recommended by the public. Larry Sale has a meeting with
ACHD staff, on the proposal of the cross sections and if they are the same as ACHD's
proposed cross sections. The only thing they feel in conflict is the intersection at Eagle
Road. Referred to Bill Dietz's drawing of a lot with a building in the middle of the lot. The
building should be at the front of the lot with parking behind the building even if there is a
change in percentages of the building coverage of a lot. There is no access to the parking
areas on Eagle Road or State Street but it is perfectly alright for example to have access
of First Street, Second Street or Idaho Street to allow for parking and shared parking.
FARRIN'S concerns are for the middle building, how would it be accessed without using
the access from the outer business.
Pauline Hinman
404 Ranch Drive
Eagle Idaho
Pauline asked the Committee to please pay attention to the reports and study them. The
Chamber is already having problems. Please do not make the business in Eagle change
their signs. The City is making it difficult to bring business into Eagle because of the
Design Review Ordinance. Business are suffering from the construction on Eagle Road.
She has had to repair her car window three times since the start of construction.
Joe Schreiber
726 N. Nicklaus Lane
Eagle, Idaho
He would hate to see the Downtown Development Plan go into a black hole. Unless this
report is reviewed and passed onto the City Council the Committee will feel betrayed. He
also noticed that all references to the Plan has been crossed out by staff.
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Rhonda Carpenter
128 S. Eagle Road
Eagle Idaho
She is concerned about putting to many restrictions on business. Not many business that
can fit into the style of the downtown. May see a deterioration of the existing business.
Nicer business will locate outside of the downtown core area where there are not as many
restrictions.
Nancy Merrill
1275 E. State
Eagle Idaho
The Commission needs to be aware of the concerns of the public and the two plans
(Downtown Development Plan and the Design Review Ordinance). Mom and Pop
business are already giving away to the larger franchises. 1996 business in Eagle at this
time are conforming to non -interior illumination. 13 business have interior lit signage. 5
of those have come in the last 5 years.
Ted Nelson
11810 Lake Hazel
Mainly like to speak on signage. Been involved in the Guho fiasco, his office is in the back
of the Guho development. Because of confusion he does not have a sign yet. Refer to
Section D, Item 2 on Page 7-8. Signs should be made of wood material. What does this
mean? Ordinance is not specific. Sign hanging underneath building is important to him
together with a large sign out in front. Give the business a break.
Chairman Brinton will not close the hearing and will allow for public comments. Will be
going through Ordinance page by page. Will be using the new version, copies are
available for the public.
Five minute break.
Chairman Brinton reconvened meeting.
Go through new copy of Ordinance, page by page.
General comments and discussion on new copy of Ordinance.
Page 2 of 35. 8-2A-2: PURPOSE AND GOALS - A. Purpose: Should read "The purpose
of this Chapter is to".
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Page 2 of 35. 2A-6 - The City Council sets the fees not the City Clerk. This should be
changed.
Page 2 of 35. 2A-6. Clarification of entryways and common areas of subdivisions should
be spelled out. Look at proposed wording.
Zoning Administrator needs to track items that need to be changed in other parts of Code.
Make a list so as they are tracked they can be corrected. Definitions - Lacking definitions
in code for mall and strip mall, these need to be corrected.
Page 4 of 35 - Comment regarding Site Design. Make sure there is pedestrian access
from residential housing into commercial areas. Existing Code calls for a barrier or wall.
Make a note.
Page 8 of 35, Paragraph b. Note: Uses must meet the requirements as outlined in Section
8-2-3 of the Eagle City Code.
Page 8 of 35, Paragraph g. Misspelled words. "Shall" and "Vertical".
Page 8 of 35, Paragraph h. Add "facing a street" after Building entries.
Page 10 of 35, Paragraph b. Public Gathering Place. Misspelled words "a" should be "as"
and "State Street". Take out the mandatory language.
Moved by MAILE and Seconded by FARNWORTH to adjourn until the Special Meeting
to be held on August 12, 1996, at 6:00 P.M., with pizza purchased by the City of Eagle
and provided by Smokey Mountain. ALL AYE: MOTION CARRIED
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