Minutes - 2000 - Planning & Zoning - 05/15/2000 - Regular
ORIGINAL
EAGLE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
May 15, 2000
7:00 PM
The Planning and Zoning Commission met in regular session on May 15, 2000.
Chairman Franden presiding.
1.
2.
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL: The following members were present FRANDEN, DECKERS,
NORDSTROM, TRENT. Absent: BLOOM A quorum is present.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
3.
A. Minutes of May 1,2000
Trent moves to approve the minutes of minutes of May
Seconded by Deckers. ALL AYE...MOTION CARRIES
4. OLD BUSINESS:
A. Discussion of Transportation issues.
1, 2000 as amended.
Franden introduces the item.
Clair Bowman, Executive Director of COMPASS, introduces Erv Olen and Ms. Pattie
Reino who are also in attendance at the Commissions request. Mr. Bowman explains
the role of COMP ASS and how it functions. COMPASS performs 3 tasks that are
mandated by federal guidelines 1. Develop a long-range plan (Destination 20/20). 2.
Prepare a budget document. 3. Formulate a staffing plan, also known as a Work
Program.
Erv Olen, with ITD, reviews the 1-84 Corridor Study including the history of the study
and current activities regarding it. Discussion. Question and Answer period between
the Commission Mr. Olen, Mr. Bowman, and Ms. Reino regarding speed limits,
response time for City initiated requests, and budgeting.
Franden calls a five-minute recess.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. CU-3-00 - Two - Two Story Office Buildin~ Hei2ht Exceptions - Dennis M.
Baker & Associates: Dennis M. Baker & Associates, represented by Dan Torfin, is
requesting conditional use approval for two 41.5-foot high building entry features
which are proposed for the screening of the roof-top mechanical units. The site is
located on the west side of South Rivershore Lane within Channel Center Subdivision
at 599 South Rivershore Lane.
Franden introduces the item.
Jeff Cramer, 2413 S. Swallow Tail Lane Boise, Idaho representing Dennis M. Baker &
Associates presents the application.
Vaughan reviews the staff report.
Franden opens the public hearing.
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Franden closes the public hearing.
Mr. Cramer responds to a question regarding Eagle Fire Department's letter regarding
the application. The Eagle Fire Department has no objections to the project.
Discussion amongst the Commission.
Nordstrom moves to approve CU-3-OO Two Two Story Office Building Height
Exceptions with site specific and standard conditions of approval. It shall be
noted that this application is being approved because of aesthetic value not to
squeak out more height exceptions within the City. Seconded by Trent.
Discussion. Nordstrom states that the overhead presented tonight shall be known
as Exhibit A. The architectural design, regarding the height exception, shall be
generally tied to Exhibit A. Seconded by Trent. ALL AYE...MOTION
CARRIES.
B. CU-5-00 Hei~ht Exception Request For 42-Foot Hi~h Poles and Safety Nettin~
at Banbury Meadows Golf Course Drivin~ Ranee - Banbury Meadows. LLC:
Banbury Meadows, LLC, represented by Cornel Larson, is requesting conditional use
approval for the addition of 42-foot high wooden poles and safety netting along the
north and east sides of the driving range at the Banbury Meadows Golf Course. The
site is located on the west side of Eagle Road approximately Yz-mile north of Chin den
Boulevard at 3023 S. Eagle Road.
Franden introduces the item.
Dick Phillips, 210 Murray Street Boise, Idaho representing Banbury Meadows LLc.
Mr. Phillips notes that the only remaining aspects of this application is regarding the
driving ranges, all other proposed netting and poles has been withdrawn from the
application. Mr. Phillips reviews the application. Discussion between Mr. Phillips and
the Commission.
Vaughan reviews the staff report.
Franden opens the public hearing.
George Dillard, 135 W. Jakona Ln. Eagle, Idaho. Draws the Commissions attention to
an agreement between Mr. Dillard and Banbury Meadows Golf Course. States the
Developer has not been in contact with him since last year. He states that he has not
been approached by the Developer regarding the netting. Believes the PUD needs to be
changed or a mutual agreement between himself, his wife and Banbury Meadows Golf
Course. Mr. Dillard feels the poles are unsightly, and possibly hazardous due to the
creosote poles being installed. His drinking water and well could be in danger. He
would like the application denied. Discussion between Mr. Dillard and the
Commission.
Morgan Masner, 3168 S. Whitepost Eagle, Idaho notes that he was on the City Council
when this application was originally brought forward for approval. Mr. Masner
concedes that the Council did not take into account that there is a prevailing easterly
wind where the driving range is, or the fact that the tees would be moved forward and
back. Mr. Masner feels that the original PUD should be complied with in so far that the
number of poles, the distance between each pole and type of golf ball usage is all
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specified in the original PUD.
Keith Watson, 260 W. Oakhampton Drive Eagle, Idaho. Mr. Watson agrees that the
poles could be installed according to the Dillard agreement that has been signed, and
according to the PUD. Feels the poles that are currently installed are quite unsightly.
Also feels that low flight golfballs should be used.
Dave Edrnark 3058 Whitepost Eagle, Idaho shows the Commission pictures ofthe
existing poles. Mr. Edmark draws the Commissions attention to the length of the
fencing in the original agreement as opposed to the existing. Originally it was to run
only 250 feet and now it is proposed at around 900 feet. States that other golf courses
do not have this type of fencing. Suggests berming as an alternative. States the poles
are very ugly. Urges the Commission to deny this application and make the original
agreement be abided by.
Jerry Breaux and Clint Travis manage the golf course. Mr. Breaux discusses some of
the challenges with managing the tees of the driving range. He also states that limited
flight golf balls may solve Mr. Dillard's problem, but the balls will still fly left and right
off of the range. He does not feel that changing the type of balls used is the solution for
the problem. Mr. Travis states that the netting at Mr. Dillard's has an anchor that has
been removed and that is sagging, but that it will be and can be fixed. Also states that
the proposed fencing is around 750 feet not 900 feet. States that extensive efforts have
been made with Mr. Dillard to solve the problem and protect his property. Discussion
between Mr. Breaux, Mr. Travis and Commission.
Carlene Canfield 1100 Clearview Ct. Eagle, Idaho. Expresses her concern with the
unsightliness of the poles, possible health hazards, the disruption of the wildlife due to
the installation of the netting. Feels that these issues need to be addressed and the
application should be denied.
David Levin 2771 N. Limerick Dr. Eagle, Idaho. Agrees with all of the comments
tonight. Inquires why if the installation of trees along the 9th fairway is a sufficient
barrier, why couldn't they do the same for the other side? Also suggests leaving the
driving range tees on the mats and do not move them closer, this would alleviate the
danger to Mr. Dillard's property. The poles are ugly and unsightly.
Brian Yurgun 539 W. Oakhampton Drive Eagle, Idaho. Inquires as to the need to use
the wood poles, instead ofthe steel poles.
Peter Simom 3034 S. Whitepost Way Eagle, Idaho feels the Developer owes it to the
community to address the concerns raised tonight.
Stanley and Diane Moss 3100 Whitepost Way Eagle, Idaho. Mr. Franden reads their
letter into the record. The letter is in opposition to the application.
Walt Gann. Mr. Franden reads Mr. Gann's letter into the record. The letter is in favor
of the netting on the north side of the range.
Thomas and Christy Suciu. Franden reads the letter into the record. The letter is in
opposition.
Mr. Phillips rebuts public testimony presenting tonight. Mr. Phillips states that the
Developer thought they did have approval of the poles to be installed on the north side
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of the driving range through the PUD. Explains their intentions regarding the pole
installation. Mr. Phillips states that ifMr. Dillard will agree to a 20 feet netting on
metal poles and sign off on the agreement, then it will be done. States that the poles
can be topped off to 30 feet above the berms. Discussion between Commission and Mr.
Phillips. States that the engineering for the metal poles was not possible to comply
with, that's why they used the wood poles. Discussion of alternatives such as limited
flight golf balls and tee positioning.
Franden closes the public hearing.
Discussion amongst the Commission.
Deckers moves to deny CU-5-00 Height Exception Request For 42-Foot High
Poles and Safety Netting at Banbury Meadows Golf Course Driving Range. The
denial is based on the belief that the original agreement on record has not been
proven to be insufficient and therefore the Commission does not find a reason to
grant the conditional use for height exception. Seconded by Trent. ALL
A YE...M OTI 0 N CARRIES.
6. NEW BUSINESS:
7. REPORTS:
A. Commission Report: Deckers drafted a letter for Franden to sign to Mayor
and Council.
B. City Attorney: None
C. Staff:
8. ADJOURNMENT: Nordstrom moved to adjourn at 10:50 p.m. Seconded
Trent. ALL AYE...MOTION CARRIES...
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RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
JOHN S. FRANDEN
CHAIRMAN
A TRANSCRIBABLE RECORD OF THIS MEETING IS AVAILABLE AT
CITY HALL.
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PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
PUBLIC HEARING SIGN-IN SHEET
Subject:CU-5-00 Heieht Exception Request for 42-Foot Hit!h Poles and Safety
Nettine at Banbury Meadows Golf Course Drivine Rant!e
May 15, 2000
7:00 P.M.
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PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
PUBLIC HEARING SIGN-IN SHEET
Subject:CU-3-00 Two - Two Story Office Buildine Heieht Exceptions
May 15,2000
7:00 P.M.
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CITY OF EAGLE
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rc.: røaadlisaAusti1, PrqJerty Owners at 884 W. Emkside Drive, Eagle (StreaT1side Slb)
. ' ... a ,stqg ~íon to the pqœaI to erect poles along the north sœ of the Barbury Golf
~"-pI"Chased pqøty in 1he Sbænside SWirisicn. we were inpressed with the
~...... ct¡s joii effcrts to peerve the area's nåuIaI beaU}'. To quåe the first
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, ~ residential deveq;ment has been ~ desipd to prO/ide home
~ prdected r1&ian areas, Øh edracrdiøy views of the Boise River, open
....8dthe Boise Frori Rqe. Yw'U delight in w*hiIg eagles, geese, deer and other
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To: Mayor Yzaguirre, City Council Members
From: Planning and Zoning Commission
Pursuant to a discussion taken place during the May 1, 2000 Planning and Zoning hearing, we the
members of the Planning and Zoning Commission wish to forward to you additional comments and
concerns with respect to the Winco development proposal. This issue was heard before the Planning and
Zoning Commission regular session of April 3, 2000, presented as PPUD-2-00/CU-2-00 - Skyland Co.
(dba Winco Foods).
While we made no recommendations to you as to the architectural design of the proposed Winco
buildings, we are greatly concerned about the entryway impact statement of this proposed development.
As per the Comprehensive Plan, Section 5.5, Item F, how will this development be designed and
developed in a manner that complements Eagle's rural residential identity? Being that this is a very
sensitive, high profile development, we suggest that you investigate architectural design restrictions to be
part of the conditions of approval. It may be prudent to forward this aspect of the development proposal
to the Design Review Board for their comments prior to you enacting a final decision on the Preliminary
Development Plan and Conditional Use Permit.
Equally important to the architectural design is the landscaping plan's impact on the entryway statement
of any such development similarly located. Please pay close attention to the landscape plan being
proposed by the applicant. You may wish to expand upon the size in particular of the landscaped area
being proposed at the entryway point.
Finally, we feel that the traffic and floodplain issues are adequately covered in the recommendations that
we forwarded to you in the form of the Site Specific Conditions of Approval.
Sincerely,
John Franden,
Chairman
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