Minutes - 2007 - City Council - 01/16/2007 - Special
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EAGLE CITY COUNCIL
Special Meeting Minutes
January 16,2007
REGULAR COUNCIL AGENDA: 5:18 p.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER: Mayor calls the meeting to order at 5: 18 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL: BASTIAN, GUERBER, NORDSTROM, BANDY. Nordstrom is absent. A
quorum is present.
3. EXECUTIVE SESSION: 5:00 - 6:00 P.M.
A. Pending or threatened litigation. I.C. 67-2345(1)
B. Acquisition of private property. I.c. 67-2345(c)
Bastian moves to go into Executive Session for the discussion of pending or threatened
litigation I.C. 67-2345(1) and Acquisition of private property I.C. 67-2345(c). Seconded by
Bandy. Bastian: AYE; Guerber: AYE; Bandy: AYE: ALL AYES: MOTION
CARRIES............
Council goes into Executive Session at 5:20 p.m.
Council discusses pending or threatened litigation and acquisition of private property.
Council leaves Executive Session at 6: 15 p.m.
4. DISCUSSION OF URBAN RENEWAL: Harlan Mann
Mayor introduces the issue.
Harlan Mann: I have a proposed consulting agreement in front of you for approval since you do
not have a committee in place. I will work with the attorney and we will produce urban renewal
plans. Once you have a committee in place I will work directly with the committee.
General discussion on the two urban renewal areas in the City.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
5. Aoolication for oayment #7 for Guerber Park Construction. (SEB) This item was
continuedfrom the January 9. 2007 meeting.
Mayor introduces the issue.
Bastian moves to add this item to the Consent Agenda as Item #8H. Seconded by Bandy.
ALL AYES: MOTION CARRIES..................
PUBLIC COMMENT: Lloyd Mahaffey: Provides Council an overview of the wineries in the
valley. Discussion on winery areas in the Comp Plan. Discussion on an overlay district.
General discussion.
6. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE (see above)
7. PUBLIC COMMENT: None
8. CONSENT AGENDA:
· Consent Agenda items are considered to be routine and are acted on with one
motion. There will be no separate discussion on these items unless the Mayor, a
Councilmember, member of City Staff, or a citizen requests an item to be removed
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from the Consent Agenda for discussion. Items removed from the Consent Agenda
will be placed on the Regular Agenda in a sequence determined by the City Council.
· Any item on the Consent Agenda which contains written Conditions of Approval
from the City of Eagle City Staff, Planning & Zoning Commission, or Design
Review Board shall be adopted as part of the City Council's Consent Agenda
approval motion unless specifically stated otherwise.
A. Minutes of December 27. 2006 soecial meetin!!.
B. DR-104-06 - Convert Aoartment Buildin!!s Into Residential Condominiums
- 727 East State Street: 727 East State Street, LLC, represented by James G.
Murray, AlA with CHSQA Architects, is requesting design review approval to
convert ten apartment buildings into 88 residential condominiums and construct
a I,387-square foot clubhouse facility. The site is located on the south side of
East State Street, approximately 160-feet west of Palmetto A venue at 727 East
State Street. (WEV)
C. DR-10S-06 - One Monument Si!!n for Rock Pointe Condominium Comolex _
727 East State Street: 727 East State Street, LLC, represented by James G.
Murray, with CSHQA Architects is requesting design review approval for a
monument sign for Rock Pointe condominium complex. The sign will be located
on the south side of East State Street approximately 160-feet west of Palmetto
Avenue at 727 East State Street.D. (WEV)
D. Findin!!s of Fact and Conclusions of Law for A-ll-06/RZ-13-06 & PP-13-06
- Annexation and Rezone from RUT to MU-DA and Preliminarv Plat for
An!!Ier's Hamlet Subdivision - Rovlance Investments. LLC and RT Nahas
Comoany: Roylance Investments, LLC and RT Nahas Company are requesting
an annexation and a rezone with a development agreement from RUT (Rural
Urban Transition) to MU-DA (Mixed Use with a Development Agreement) and
preliminary plat approval for Angler's Hamlet Subdivision, a 42-lot (37-
residential, 5-common) residential subdivision. The 10-acre site is located
approximately 400-feet southwest of the intersection of North Park Lane and
State Highway 44, on the south side of West Old Valley Road at 4171 W. Old
Valley Road. (WEV) This item was continued from the January 9, 2007
meeting.
E. Aooointment of Urban Renewal Commission: (NM)
F. Urban Renewal A!!reement for Consultin!! Services. (NM)
G. Minutes of December 12.2006
H. Aoolication for oavment #7 for Guerber Park ConstructioD.
BastiaD moves to remove Items #B and #H from the Consent Agenda. Seconded by
Guerber. ALL AYES: MOTION CARRIES.............
Bastian moves to approve the Amended Consent Agenda. Seconded by Bandy. Bastian:
AYE; Guerber: AYE; Bandy; AYE: ALL AYES: MOTION CARRIES....................
8H. Aoolication for oavment #7 for Guerber Park Construction.
City Attorney Buxton: I request that that the payment request be approved minus $18,714.00,
which is $17,242.00 for #7 A-Water Playground Equipment Installation and $$1,472.00 for # 14-
Finishes. The amount to be approved is $241,192.00.
Guerber moves to approve the application for payment #7 in the amount of $241,192.00.
Seconded by Bastian. Bastian: AYE; Guerber: AYE; Bandy: AYE: ALL A YES: MOTION
CARRIES.............. ...
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Discussion on darkening or painting the windows on the rest rooms to prevent the view of the
HV AC system.
8B. DR-104-06 - Convert Aoartment Buildin!!s Into Residential Condominiums _ 727 East
State Street: 727 East State Street, LLC, represented by James G. Murray, AlA with CHSQA
Architects, is requesting design review approval to convert ten apartment buildings into 88
residential condominiums and construct a I,387-square foot clubhouse facility. The site is
located on the south side of East State Street, approximately 160-feet west of Palmetto A venue at
727 East State Street. (WEV)
Attorney Buxton: My concern is that there are some questions that I need to review, my
recommendation would be to continue this item to January 23, 2007.
Brian Trottier, 1 am here on behalf of the applicant, we are the current owners of Peregrine Cove
Apartments. We are converting the apartments to condominiums. I know you have a long
agenda and I would rather not fly up for another meeting. Discussion on the replacement of the
windows. General discussion.
Discussion on stone element accents, Craftsman Style. I will have a problem doing this in the
back of the building to the second floor because of all of the power lines and etc. located there.
General discussion.
Mayor: I would recommend that we continue this to the next Council meeting.
Bastian: So moved. Seconded by Guerber. ALL A YES: MOTION CARRIES............
9. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
A. CP A-4-06 - Com orehensive Plan Amendment from Professional Office and
Transitional Residential to Commercial- Lazv P Limited Partnershio: Lazy P Limited
Partnership, represented by Shawn Nickel of SLN Planning, is requesting a Comprehensive Plan
Amendment to change the land use designation on the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map from
Professional Office and Transitional Residential to Commercial. The 40-acre site is located at
the northeast corner of Chin den Boulevard (Hwy 20/26) and Linder Road at 1240 W. Chinden
Boulevard. (NBS) This item was continued/rom the January 9, 2007 meeting.
Mayor introduces the issue.
General Council discussion.
Bastian moves to designate this area as a MU designation. Seconded by Bandy. Discussion.
ALL AYES: MOTION CARRIES..................
B. CPA-9-06 - Comorehensive Plan Amendment from Transitional Residential to
Professional Office - Caoital Develooment. Inc.: Capital Development, Inc. represented by
Dave Yorgason ., is requesting a Comprehensive Plan Map and Text Amendment to change the
land use designation on the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map from Transitional Residential to
Professional Office and amend the text of the Rim View Planning Area. The 7.8-acre site is
generally located on the northwest comer of the intersection of Meridian and Chinden at 6615 N.
Meridian Road. (NBS) This item was continued/rom the January 9, 2007 meeting.
Mayor introduces the issue.
General Council discussion.
Bastian moves to approve CP A-9-06 - Comprehensive Plan Amendment from Transitional
Residential to Professional Office - Capital Development, Inc. as presented with all
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conditions in the documents before us. Seconded by Bandy. ALL AYES: MOTION
CARRIES....... ..
C. CP A-2-06/ RZ-8-06N AC-1-06/PP-9-06- Ea!!le Gateway Proiect - Cornerstone Grouo.
LLC.: Cornerstone Group, LLC., represented by Walter Lundgren of Johnson Architects, is
requesting a Comprehensive Plan Map Amendment from BP (business Park) to MU (Mixed
Use), a Rezone with a Development Agreement from BP (Business Park) to MU-DA (Mixed Use
with a development agreement), a vacation and realignment of McGrath Road through the site
and a Preliminary plat for an 11 lot commerciallretail subdivision. The 9.5 acre site is located at
1601 and 1782 McGrath Road, at the southwest intersection of McGrath Road and State Street
north of the Stat Highway 44 Bypass. (NBS) This item was continuedfrom the January 9,
2007 meeting.
Mayor introduces the issue.
Bastian moves to approve CP A-2-06/ RZ-8-06N AC-1-06/PP-9-06- Eagle Gateway Project
- Cornerstone Group, LLC. with all Site Specific and other conditions as presented.
Seconded by Guerber. Discussion. City Attorney Buxton: Discusses the areas that are
served by Eagle Water Corporation, which is not a city owned corporation and is regulated
by the Public Utilities Commission and DEQ. DEQ is not allowing them to issue will serve
letters for new hook ups. This application is in their service area. The City has no control
over this. Bastian I would amend my motion to state: "Notification to the Developer that
the PUC and DEQ is notifying Eagle Water Company that they can not provide service to
the area until conditions set by those two bodies are met." Discussion. Second concurs.
ALL AYES: MOTION CARRIES..................
D. CPA-3-06/A-9-061RZ-1O-06/PP-11-06 - Comorehensive Plan Amendment from
Residential One to Transitional Residential. Annexation. Rezone with a Develooment
Al!reement from RUT(Ada County) to R-3-DA & Preliminarv Plat Aooroval for
Countrvland Estates - JLJ Enterorises: JLJ Enterprises Inc, represented by Van Elg of The
Land Group Inc, is requesting a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to change the land use
designation on the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map from Residential One (up to one unit per
acre) to Transitional Residential, an annexation and rezone from RUT (Ada County Zone) to R-
3-DA (up to three units per acres with Development Agreement limiting it to 2 units per acre),
and preliminary plat approval for Countryland Estates, a l7-lot (12 buildable) residential
subdivision. The 6.6-acre site is generally located y. mile west of Ballantyne Road and Y. north
of State Highway 44 at 2556 W. State Street. (NBS) This item was continuedfrom the January
9,2007 meeting.
Mayor introduces the issue.
Planner Baird Spencer: Provides the Council an overview of the proposed changes.
Bastian moves to approve CPA-3-06/A-9-061RZ-10-06/PP-11_06 - Comprehensive Plan
Amendment from Residential One to Transitional Residential, Annexation, Rezone with a
Development Agreement from RUT(Ada County) to R-3-DA & Preliminary Plat Approval
for Countryland Estates - JLJ Enterprises, Countryland Estates with all Site Specific and
Standard Conditions of approval as amended by the document dated January 11,2007.
Seconded by Guerber. ALL A YES: MOTION CARRIES......................
E. CPA-7-06 - Comorehensive Plan Text Amendment to Establish the Chinden Terrace
Plannin!! Area and Mao Amendment from Residential One to Mixed Use _ The City of
Ea!!le: The City of Eagle, is requesting a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to establish the
Chinden Terrace Planning Area and a Land Use Map Amendment to change the land use
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designation on the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map from Residential One to Mixed Use. The
+1- 57-acre site is located at the northeast corner of Chin den Boulevard (Hwy 20/26) and Eagle
Road (Highway 55). (NBS) This item was continuedfrom the January 9, 2007 meeting.
Mayor introduces the issue.
Bastian moves to approve CP A-7-06 - Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment to Establish
the Chinden Terrace Planning Area and Map Amendment from Residential One to Mixed
Use - The City of Eagle as presented in the document now before us dated January 3, 2007.
Seconded by Bandy. ALL AYES: MOTION CARRIES..................
F. CPA-6-06 - Comorehensive Plan Amendment to chan!!e the Villa!!e Center symbol for
+/- 640 located in the Villa!!e Plannin!! Area - The City of Ea!!le: The City of Eagle, is
requesting a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to change the symbol for the Village Center land
use designation on the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map for the Village Center area. The +1_
640-acres site is approximately I-mile wide located approximately I mile east of State Highway
16 along Beacon Light Road. (NBS) This item was continuedfrom the January 9, 2007
meeting.
Mayor introduces the issue.
Bastian moves to approve CP A-6-06 - Comprehensive Plan Amendment to change the
Village Center symbol for +1- 640 located in the Village Planning Area - The City of Eagle
from a square to a star. Seconded by Bandy. ALL AYES: MOTION CARRIES............
G. CP A-ll-06 - City of Ea!!le.: the City of Eagle is proposing a comprehensive Plan
amendment to achieve the following:
1) Remove the business park designation from the plan and change property designated
as Business Park to Mixed Use (City Wide);
2) Removal of the Chinden Bench Planning Area;
3) Land use Map change within the Moon Valley & State planning area from
Residential Estates (I unit per 2 acres) to Professional Office;
4) The merger of the Soaring 2025 Plan adopted September 14,2004 and the Eagle
Comprehensive Plan adopted September 4, 2004;
5) Update appropriate sections of the existing plan to ensure consistency with the
proposed amendments. (NBS)
This item was continued/rom the January 9, 2007 meeting.
Mayor introduces the issue.
Planner Baird Spencer: Discusses the proposed comp plan amendment. General discussion.
Bastian moves to approve CPA-11-06 - City of Eagle as presented to us in the document
dated January 7, 2007 and the follow up Land Use Map presented to us dated January 11,
2007. Seconded by Guerber. Discussion. ALL AYES: MOTION CARRIES............
10. FINAL PLATS:
A. FP-08-06 - Final Plat for Moffat Subdivision (Obsidian Subdivision) - Park Lane
Develooment. LLC: Park Lane Development, LLC, represented by Eric Cronin with The Land
Group, is requesting final plat approval for Moffat Subdivision (Obsidian Subdivision) a 30-10t
(24-buildable, 6-common) residential subdivision. The 14.6-acre site is located on the west side
of North Park Lane approximately one-half mile north of Floating Feather Road at 1835 North
Park Lane. (WEV)
Mayor introduces the issue. Bill is this in substantial compliance with preliminary plat?
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Zoning Administrator Vaughan: Yes it is. The City Staff and the City Engineer have reviewed
the final plat and recommend approval.
Mayor: We recommend approval of the final plat for 08-06 Final Plat for Moffat
Subdivision.
So moved by Bastian. Seconded by Guerber. Discussion. ALL A YES: MOTION
CARRIES.......
Discussion on the open space lots and pathways.
B. FPUD-05-06 & FP-12-06 - Final Develooment Plan and Final Plat for Bellaterra
Subdivision Phase I-Ted Martinez: Ted Martinez, represented by Jason Densmer with The
Land Group, Inc., is requesting final development plan and final plat approval for Bellaterra
Subdivision Phase 1, a 41-lot (34-buildable, 7-common) residential subdivision. This 21. 72-acre
site is located on the east side of North Linder Road approximately one quarter mile north of
West Floating Feather Road. (WEV)
Mayor introduces the issue. Staff is this in substantial compliance with the preliminary plat?
Zoning Administrator Vaughan: Staff and the City Engineer have reviewed this application and
recommend approval.
Bandy moves to approve FPUD-05-06 & FP-12-06 - Final Development Plan and Final Plat
for Bellaterra Subdivision Phase 1 -Ted Martinez. Seconded by Bastian. ALL AYES:
MOTION CARRIES..............
C. FP-14-06 - Final Plat for Li!!hthouse Subdivision - Rinconado Develooment: Rinconado
Development, represented by Sabrina Whitehead with Briggs Engineering, is requesting final
plat approval for Lighthouse Subdivision, an II-lot (9-buildable, 2-common) residential
subdivision. The 18.93-acre subdivision is located on the south side of West Beacon Light Road
approximately V,-mile east of Ballantyne Lane at 110 I West Beacon Light Road.
Mayor introduces the issue. Bill is this in substantial compliance with the preliminary plat?
Zoning Administrator Vaughan: It is and staff has reviewed this application and recommend
approval. Discussion on progression of the construction.
Bastian moves to approve FP-14-06 - Final Plat for Lighthouse Subdivision _ Rinconado
Development with the request that the plan be reviewed by the United Water engineer
prior to the City signing the final plat. Seconded by Bandy. ALL AYES: MOTION
CARRIES...
Mayor calls a recess at 7:45 p.m.
Mayor reconvenes at 7:55 p.m.
II. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. A-06-06/RZ-06-06 & PP-06-06 - Annexation and Rezone From RUT to MU-DA
residentialonl and Prelimina Plat For Gra Ea Ie Subdivision - John Wood and Tom
Ricks: John Wood and Tom Ricks are requesting annexation and rezone from RUT (Rural Urban
Transition) to MU-DA-Residential Only (Mixed Use Residential with a development agreement),
and preliminary plat approval for Gray Eagle Subdivision, a 45 lot (41 residential, 4 common)
residential subdivision. The 13.88-acre site is located on the south side of West Floating Feather
Road approximately !I.-mile east of Park Lane at 3377 and 3395 West Floating Feather Road.
This item was continuedfrom the November 21,2006 meeting. (WEV)
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Mayor introduces the issue.
Mayor swears in John Wood
John Wood, applicant, displays overheads and provides the Council some history on Gray Eagle
and provides an overview of the applicant.
Mayor swears in Tom Ricks
Tom Ricks, applicant, displays overheads, and plan boards and provides the Council an overview
of the project. General discussion.
Mayor swears in Brian McCullough
Brian McCullough, 2396 West Valley High, Gray Eagle is 13.88 Acres, which is 2.81 density.
Discussion on what Tom Ricks is entitled to as far as density. Further discussion on density.
Planner Williams, displays overheads and provides Council an overview of the application.
General discussion.
Mayor opens the Public Hearing
Mayor swears in Joel Barker
Joel Barker, 972 N. Cove Colony Way, 1 have been asked by the Colony to provide a
presentation. Distributes a copy of the Power Point Presentation and proceeds with the Power
Point presentation and discussion on the same. I am spokesman for 72 families and we have
come to a consensus on 4 points which are in contention with the developer. Thirty six people in
the audience are in agreement of Mr. Barker's presentation. General discussion.
Mayor swears in Chuck Rosco
Chuck Rosco, 1400 N. Razza Way, President of Cavallo Estates, discussion on density and low
impacts on existing neighborhoods. This is designed to go to Floating Feather and they are going
to go through the Colonies. Wait and take a look at the whole project that they are going to
present and listen to the neighbors.
Mayor swears in Rod Heller
Rod Heller, 2760 W. Confier Drive, I concur with the gentleman from the Colony. We weren't
aware of this large development going in. 1 would ask you to continue this matter so our
Homeowner's representative can be here and also that Mr. Nordstrom can be here.
Mayor swears in Jeff Kline
Jeff Kline, 569 N. Cove Colony Way, discussion on the traffic flow and the traffic through the
Colony. We don't have sidewalks or speed bumps. I'm in support of what Joel has to say.
General discussion.
Mayor swears in Pat Miller
Pat Miller, 959 Preakness, discussion on the traffic and how this will increase the traffic on
Floating Feather.
John Woods, discussion on Gray Eagle and the concept plan. We have waited six months after
being before the Planning and Zoning to come before the Council. We are not trying to rush this
in. We have worked hard to have this under one development instead of several developers.
Discussion on traffic.
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Brian McCullough: discussion on transitional density. We think that we have compromised, they
said we do not like 6 we want 1. The 6 was stricken and 3 was put in.
General discussion.
Mayor closes the Public Hearing
General Council discussion.
Guerber moves to deny A-06-06/RZ-06-06 & PP-06-06 - Annexation and Rezone From
RUT to MU-DA (residential only) and Preliminary Plat For Gray Eagle Subdivision with
the recommendation that it be included as part of an overall application for the Spur
Ranch Development. Seconded by Bandy. Discussion. Guerber amends his motion to add:
That they be credited with the cost on this project towards the overall master plan, that
they have some definite guidelines from ACHD what the road designation will be, and that
it will be a PUD which will allow higher density near the High School and recognize that
we are talking transition. Second concurs. Discussion.
Bastian makes a substitute motion that the application before us be remanded back to staff
with instructions and the fees do not need to be repaid. That this application would come
before the Council when the other property develops and that they bring in a unified plan,
that the transition that we spoke about in the record would be 1 acre lots on the eastern
side of this area, 2 houses per acre to higher density house, so the developers could plan
around the high school higher density homes, and in the middle. That you develop a local
road. Discussion.
City Attorney Buxton: I would recommend that the Mayor call a recess so the motions and
procedure can be sorted out.
Mayor calls a recess at 10:50 p.m.
Mayor reconvenes at 11: 1 0 p.m.
City Attorney Buxton: After discussion with the applicant they agreed that a remand would be
helpful. This application would come back with Spur Ranch.
Bastian's substitute motion was not seconded, motion died.
Guerber amends his motion to remand the application back to staff instead of a denial with
direction articulated by the Council. Seconded concurs. Discussion on seeing some sort of
surety or agreement between the individuals that the application would move forward and
that is linked somehow. Maker of Motion concurs. Discussion. ALL AYES: MOTION
CARRIES.................... .
General Council discussion on the direction that Council wants to give to the applicant on
density, the roads and etc.
Joel Baker discusses the transition.
B. A-12-06/RZ-14-06 & PP-15-06 - Annexation and Rezone from RUT to MU-DA and
Preliminarv Plat for the Lofts at Ea!!le River - Sea 2 Sea. LLC.: Sea 2 Sea, LLC, represented
by Mark Butler with Land Consultants, Inc., is requesting approval of an annexation and a rezone
from RUT (Rural Urban Transition) to MU-DA (Mixed Use with a Development Agreement),
and preliminary plat approval for The Lofts at Eagle River, an 8 lot (7-residential, I-common),
214-unit multi-family condominiumltownhouse housing development. The 25.37-acre site is
located on the south side of East Riverside Drive approximately 1500 feet west of the
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intersection of East Riverside Drive and State Highway 44 at 827 East Riverside Drive. (WEV)
This item was continued/rom the December 12,2006 meeting. (WEV)
Mayor introduces the issue.
Jim Murray, representing the applicant, displays overheads and discusses the changes that have
been made. We had a meeting with staff and provided a concept plan. Discussion on the design
of the buildings and the landscaping.
Mark Butler, representing the applicant, I went out with Bill and the arborist. I think Julie values
the trees high and I think we need to get another opinion. Discussion on trees. General
discussion.
David Sterling, Toothman-Orton Engineering, discussion on the heights, and finished floors.
General discussion on the heights of the condos and the townhouses.
General discussion on the trees on the sites.
Mark Butler discusses the elevations.
Planner Williams: Discussion on the changes. General discussion.
Mayor opens the Public Hearing
Mayor closes the Public Hearing
Further discussion on the changes to the application.
Bandy moves to approve A-12-06/RZ-14-06 & PP-15-06 - Annexation and Rezone from
RUT to MU-DA and Preliminary Plat for the Lofts at Eagle River _ Sea 2 Sea, LLC. with
all the Site Specific Conditions of Approval and include the Conditional Use Request CU-
05-06 with all Site Specific Conditions of Approvals, staff recommendations modified and
stated earlier by staff. Seconded by Guerber. Discussion. TWO AYES: ONE NAY:
M()1rI()N <:ARRIEIS........................
Zoning Administrator: There are Design Review applications associated with this application as
well. General discussion.
Bandy I would amend my Motion to include Dr-57-06 Common Area Landscaping
Residential Townhome with my original motion, there are a number of modifications to
this document that have to do with the City Forester and landscaping that need to modified
similar to previous discussion with height specific conditions of approval and staff
recommendations and modifications. Seconded by Guerber. ALL AYES: MOTION
<:ARRIICIS..................
DR-58-06: General discussion.
Bandy moves to approve DR-58-06 supporting the Board decision which was 4-0 to
approve this Design Review application for Monument Sign for the Lots at Eagle River
with the Site Specific Conditions of Approval. Seconded by Guerber. Discussion. ONE
AYE: TWO NAYS: MOTION DOES NOT FAILS
Applicant: We would be happy to lower that it is just a cap on that.
Guerber moves to go with an 8' limitation. Seconded by Bastian. ALL AYES: MOTION
CARRIES................. .
C. PP-16-06 - Preliminarv Plat for Eal!le Creek West Subdivision - JLJ Enterorises. LLC:
JLJ Enterprises, LLC, represented by Phil Hull with The Land Group, Inc., is requesting
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preliminary plat approval for Eagle Creek West Subdivision, a 1 14-lot (98-buildable, 16-
common) subdivision. The 32.7-acre site is located approximately 1,640 feet north of State
Highway 44, on the west side of North Linder Road at 839 North Linder Road. This item was
continuedfrom the December 12,2006 meeting. (WEV)
Mayor introduces the issue.
Guerber moves to continue PP-16-06 - Preliminary Plat for Eagle Creek West Subdivision
- JLJ Enterprises, LLC to the January 23, 2007 City Council meeting. Seconded by
Bastian. ALL AYES: MOTION CARRIES.....................
D. CU-09-06 - Mobile Office for The Landin!! Community Center and Continuation of
Nonconformin!! Use - The Landin!! Community Center: The Landing Community Center,
represented by Russ Phillips with Insight Architects, is requesting conditional use permit
approval to install a 1440-square foot mobile office for The Landing Community Center and to
allow the site to remain nonconforming with the provisions ofTitIe 8 Chapter 2A. The site is
located on the southeast corner of North Eagle Road and East Mission Drive at 296 North 1st
Street. This item was continuedfrom the January 9,2007 meeting. (WEV)
Mayor introduces the issue.
Mayor opens the Public Hearing
Mayor closes the Public Hearing
Guerber moves to approve A-12-06/RZ-14-06 & PP-15-06 - Annexation and Rezone from
RUT to MU-DA and Preliminary Plat for the Lofts at Eagle River - Sea 2 Sea, LLC.
including all ofthe findings and recommendations from Planning and Zoning. Seconded
by Bastian. ALL AYES: MOTION CARRIES.....................
12. NEW BUSINESS:
A. Ordinance No. 553A (Brutsman): An Ordinance Annexing Certain Real Property Situated
In The Unincorporated Area Of Ada County, Idaho, And Contiguous To The Corporate Limits
Of The City Of Eagle, To The City Of Eagle, Idaho; Establishing The Zoning Classification Of
Said Real Property Described Herein; Amending The Zoning Map Of The City Of Eagle To
Reflect Said Changes; Directing That Copies Of This Ordinance Be Filed As Provided By Law;
And Providing An Effective Date. (WEV)
Mayor introduces the issue.
Guerber moves, pursuant to Idaho Code, Section 50-902, that the rule requiring
Ordinances to be read on three different days with one reading to be in full be dispensed
with, and that Ordinance #553A be considered after being read once by title only. Guerber
reads Ordinance #553A by title only. Seconded by Bastian. ALL A YES: MOTION
c:ARRIlCSl...............
Guerber moves that Ordinance #553A be adopted. Seconded by Bastian. Bastian: AYE;
Guerber: AYE; Bandy: AYE: ALL AYE: MOTION CARRIES...............
B. Ea!!le Water Cornoration (not Citv of Earde owned svstem) Moratorium: (NM)
Mayor introduces the issue.
Attorney. I would recommend tabling the moratorium to the first meeting in February in order to
gather more information from DEQ.
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Council concurs to install the gates and the gutters as proposed for Guerber Park.
13. REPORTS: No reoorts
City Engineer Report:
City Clerk/Treasurer Report:
Zoning Administrator's Report:
City Attorney Report:
Public Works Director Report:
Mayor and Council's Report:
14. ADJOURNMENT:
Guerber moves to adjourn. Seconded by Bastian. ALL AYE: MOTION
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Zoning Administration
To: Mayor Merrill and City Council Members
From: Michael Williams, PCED, Planner II
Subject: PP -16-06 Eagle Creek West Subdivisi n
Date: January 16, 2007
Attachment(s): Email to Bill Vaughan from Jim Jewett, date stamped by the City on January
16, 2007.
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Bill Vaughan
From: Jim Jewett [JimJ@mail.jljenterprisesinc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:27 PM
To: Bill Vaughan
Subject: EC West
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Bill,
Due too some personal conflicts with Phil it would be in our best interest to defer the our City Council hearing till
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Jim
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Zoning Administration
To: Mayor Merrill and City Council Members
From: Michael Williams PCED, Planner II
Subject: A-06-06/RZ-06-06 & PP -06-06 Annekation and Rezone From RUT to MU -
DA (Residential Only) and Preliminary Plat for Gray Eagle Subdivision
Date: January 16, 2007
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January 16, 2007.
Copy of transcribed testimony regarding the Park Lane Planning Area from
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date stamped by the City on January 16, 2007.
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City of Eagle Council Members
Letter for the January 16, 2007 Meeting
TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR,
FtECEiVED & FILED
1 CITY OF EAGLE
JAN 162007
My name is Colleen Kline, and I reside at 569 N. Cove Colony Way in the Colony
Subdivision. I am writing this to state my opposition to roads and the development going in
behind our subdivision. I am the homeowner who will be affected the most. Our property is off of
Breanna and will adjoin the new subdivision. Our address is 569 North Cove Colony Way. From
the proposal our beautiful one -acre lot will have roads on all three sides of our property. There is
no way that when I built our dream house and designed it that I would have chosen to have a
piece of property with a main road in front of our house, on the side of our house, and now being
proposed behind our house. This absolutely cannot happen. I saw a proposed unplatted
proposal with this road in it.
Mr. Ricks and Mr. Woods are developing this property together behind us, although they
are dividing it up and not proposing it at the same time. I believe the reason Mr. Woods is
proposing Gray Eagle Subdivision first is so that he can get his subdivision in, and then the only
place for the connector road to go is along by the Colony. I propose that before any of this
property is developed that the connector road is decided upon first and then go from there.
I propose that the connector road go in behind the high school. This could then be used
for the high school. They can design it exactly like they have by Eagle Middle School. I also
propose that the language be cleared up in the record as far as transitioning lots. We have
already lost the one -acre lots that were in the Comprehensive Plan for all of this land behind The
Colony to the high school. Now, we would like to see clear language on transitioning. The
proposed Flint Acres has three houses proposed behind Colony homes existing. I don't care how
much testimony Mr. Woods and Mr. Ricks put in the record about them helping the community
and smaller lots are better. The only reason either one of these developers wants smaller lots is
because they make more money, period.
I would like to see a division of the land be one-third of the land three lots per acre next
to the high school and connector road; one-third of the land half acre lots in the middle; and one-
third of the land one acre lots next to The Colony. I also would like it made clear in the record
that the one acre lots behind The Colony be lined up with our lots so they are only one house
behind our existing homes. I think The Colony homeowners would all be very happy with a
development similar to The Colony behind our house with two rows of one -acre lots.
A major concern for me is the road going from Breanna adjoining in this subdivision and
looping around in this and not being a main, fast road. I have heard testimony in the record
about how The Colony was supposed to be this main connecting road. Well, that might have
been in the plans before, but we are a residential area that is being treated like a main road. We
do not have sidewalks, curbs. Our kids are forced to be on the roadway to play and ride their
bikes, walk to school, wait for the bus in the road, so I feel that the Council and the City have a
responsibility now to fix this road and make it safer. I have learned from experience that after the
fact there is nothing that can be done. On Breanna, I would like to have a proposed loop around
be in a cul-de-sac to help with traffic. 1 have contacted the ACHD, the City of Eagle, the police
with the traffic issues. We have had people miss the corner because they are going too fast
around the corner and ran 75 feet into our yard. A 30 -foot RV was going too fast around the
corner and high centered their RV on our neighbor's rocks because they took the corner too fast
and had to call a tow truck. Last year a high school student high centered his pickup on the rocks
by the community pool going too fast around a traffic circle that was supposed to slow traffic
down, he had to call a tow truck. Our road has become a major thoroughfare with people cutting
across our residential neighborhood driving so fast they cannot make the corners. This is a
safety concern.
I have almost been killed on our road rollerblading with my daughters and having a truck
come around the corner and going too fast and almost hitting us way on the other side of the
road. I contacted the police, nothing was done. I have contacted ACHD to get speed bumps,
stop signs, anything to help, they won't do anything. They say there is not enough traffic to put in
a stop sign. So this is a big concern and the City Council needs to make this a number one issue
about designing this road and worrying about traffic. It doesn't matter what our subdivision was
supposed to be. We are a residential area, and we need to be treated as such.
So I would propose that the City Council put in the major connecting road by the high
school, and design the roads and work with The Colony about the road design. This should be
done with the developers, but we have attended their meetings and they do not want any input
from us. Also I would like to make it very clear that Mr. Ricks has had issues with his irrigation
ditch leaking and has been unresponsive to needs in that regard. So he has not been a very
good neighbor. So I am asking the City Council to deny the Gray Eagle Subdivision, and decide
on where this road is going to go. Putting the road by the high school is the best solution for all.
If the road is designed where it is going to go, then the people buying their property in Gray Eagle
and Spur Ranch and Flint Estates will be informed buyers knowing what they are buying, unlike
The Colony homeowners, who bought one -acre lots with the land behind them proposed as one -
acre lots and now having to worry about houses being built on top of us.
I appreciate the Mayor and Council Members' time and effort. I am a court reporter and
have worked with many of the city agencies in the area. And the reason we built our house in
Eagle was because the City of Eagle does value the homeowners. The decision for me to move
here came because of the lawsuit about the trees across the street from McDonald's that the City
would not let them cut down. I told my husband this is where we need to build our home. So I do
appreciate your time and effort.
Thank you,
Colleen Kline
EAGLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
IN RE: PARK LANE PLANNING AREA, ) City of Eagle
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1 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Having said
2 that. There is a big part of me that's pretty
3 sad that we can't figure out a place to put this
4 musical conservatory. And it's down to that same
5 old thing about, "Not in my backyard. Put it
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8 The issues that everybody raised more
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12 the City grows, you have to face every day in
13 your life. And as a citizen, we face them every
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15 MS. SEDLACEK: Is there a way to be
16 able to go back into a residence -- is there a
17 way to amend it?
18 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Pretty much
19 steer us when we go into those issues. And when
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21 complimentary community, it's sometimes becomes a
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they are not going to build more schools, and
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It's a tough situation, but that's just the way
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Having said that, I don't know that I
personally feel -- and I'm the one that probably
incited people like Mr. Butler to try and find
different uses for this property. Because I felt
like that area on State Street was something that
was going to be very difficult to find a fit
going forward as we envision the growth of this
area.
And I still am a believer that on the
area that touches State Street, that it should be
at least a mixed-use designation. I am concerned
that this project is just a little too mixed for
the area, all things told. Although I will tell
you that when we first started looking at this
area of how we're growing, we've got to look at
different kinds of uses and find different places
to go.
I live right down the street from where
this is proposed, and that is not driving my
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MS. SEDLACEK: But it's going to be
4.8 -units acres per acre, but I think that was
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Well,
clearly, I think that was a generalization. I
don't believe those are half -acre lots. Clearly,
those are not half -acre lots. We can come up
with a minimum lot size in that area. I need a
calculator to do the division.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I may
address that, if you allow me to. On page 34 of
56 pages of the Comprehensive Plan, about
three-quarters of the way down, it says, land
uses north of Flint Estates designate a
transition increases of residential density
ensure from east to west ensuring compatibility
with the one -acre lots in The Colony Subdivision,
and increasing in density not to exceed six -units
per acre near Eagle High School.
So I think the proposal in the draft is
that we go from a one -acre density up to a
six -unit -per -acre density near the high school,
and presumably north of this area, this corner
here, is the high school property, Park Lane.
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4 And so I think the owner indicated that
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7 area, up to one -unit per acre up near The Colony.
8 MAYOR MERRILL: Go ahead, Bill.
9 MR. VAUGHAN: Were you wanting further
10 clarity on the density issue? Okay.
11 Consideration for new item 2.10, something to the
12 effect of the assisted -living facility proposed
13 on Lot 8, Block 2. I can read this, and slow
14 down also for taking note purposes, or I could
15 also help with the motion as we get to that
16 point -- shall be limited to one story, maybe
17 include a maximum height.
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19 MR. GUERBER: Ms. Mayor, if I may,
20 would you back up, Bill, and go over each item in
21 the Development Agreement. The townhouses, or
22 whatever you'll be putting in there, any kind of
23 a range as far as the value, or the selling
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2 MR. GUERBER: Thank you.
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6 MR. GUERBER: Well, this is always the
7 enjoyable part of being on the Council when you
8 get to this point where you get to deliberate
9 these kinds of things. And tonight, I'm not sure
10 I've heard a whole lot of things that I haven't
11 heard in many cases in the past. And I think
12 they are very legitimate: About the need to
13 transition. The impacts on me. I like the
14 concepts, but, you know, put it somewhere else.
15 People who -- high density in Star has no impact
16 on State Street if it's built in Star instead of
17 being in Eagle. My vehicles don't increase the
18 amount of traffic on State Street now that I've
19 moved out here.
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21 would think, understand that what has really
22 impacted us out here from the standpoint of many
23 of those things has been the fact that every one
24 of us wanted to live out here, and every one of
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3 cut it off. And nothing else happens now,
4 because I like it just the way that it is." And
5 I think we all understand that, it ain't going to
6 be that way either. And it isn't going to be
7 that way either, because it hasn't been that way,
8 and we're going to continue to grow here. And I
9 think it's critical for us to appropriately plan
10 what we have, I think, in many ways appropriately
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12 I was the Mayor when we began the real
13 revamps of the Comprehensive Plan back in the
14 late '80s and kind of created the vision of what
15 we wanted Eagle to become. And unfortunately, we
16 thought we were really visionary at that point in
17 time when we went all the way out to Linder Road
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20 The sad part is that wasn't visionary
21 at all, because now we're looking at saying,
22 let's go to Highway 16, because what we see what
23 is Eagle becoming. And the heck of it is that
24 what we've done is such a good job up to this
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I'm not sure what I would change from
the standpoint of doing what we did to make
ourselves attractive. I much would rather be
able to say, "That's a darn good place to live,"
instead of, "Luckily we screwed it up bad enough
where nobody wants to live here." So we're not
growing.
I knew that this area along the
so-called, you know, Park Lane or Park Road area
that we were looking at at this point in time was
going to be the most difficult of all the things
we looked at in the Comprehensive Plan, because
it went basically in an area that is changing the
way under the proposals that we had envisioned
Eagle at one point in time.
That was going to be kind of like where
the western edge of where development was going
to take place. And, you know, we kind of looked
at five, and ten -acre, and 40 -acre farms from
that point on, at least that's the way it was 10,
and 15, and 20 years ago. But that's not the way
that it is. And that's not the way that the
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2 to look at this area, and to understand that it
3 is going to transition, in some cases, I think,
4 to higher densities out further to the west of
5 than perhaps of what we had envisioned and what
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7 And the unfortunate part of that is the
8 fact those people like The Colony and others on
9 that western edge right now are kind of caught in
10 between things where they thought things were
11 going to be lower density, and now it looks like
12 we're going to see some things change that could
13 bring higher density out in that area, different
14 kinds of development, commercial in some cases,
15 and perhaps even industrial further on down
16 toward 15, although I'm not talking heavy
17 industrial. I'm talking Hewlett-Packard kinds of
18 industrial, or something like that.
19 But that area is indeed in a
20 transition. And I think tonight we're really
21 looking at having to try to figure out what is
22 the appropriate way to be able to handle that.
23 And to a certain extent, what is the transition.
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2 your backyard where the transition maybe goes
3 from acre, to a half acre, to, you know, quarter
4 acres, or something like that as you go one
5 additional block, or a quarter of a mile, or
6 whatever, further on down the road.
7 And I guess I'm looking at this as
8 being a transition from the standpoint that those
9 people who currently have property, who have made
10 an investment based on what they really believed
11 was going to be taking place will be as impacted
12 as little as possible. But I think no matter
13 what we do, there will be impacts.
14 And my belief, I guess, in how I would
15 like to ultimately see this happen is to see that
16 those -- that The Colony, for example -- and I
17 know we haven't reached a point where we're
18 talking about a whole lot of other land in
19 there -- but certainly in those areas, I think if
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21 the fact that your neighbor behind you is going
22 to have one acres. There would be one -acre lots.
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5 I think it's the school it's an appropriate use
6 through that area. I think setbacks and the
7 buffers -- I think what people ultimately
8 discover is that the world doesn't come to an end
9 every time we make a derision and something
10 starts happening. That's been my observation
11 from what people have discovered from the point
12 when they've come in and testified, as I saw
13 happen up in the Eagle Ranch area, for example.
14 "I always thought that was going to be an open
15 field when I bought this house. And now suddenly
16 you are putting houses behind it just like mine."
17 So I think that, you know, these things
18 are going to happen. And I think once those
19 things are built, people discover that, you know,
20 that it's okay to have neighbors in back, as long
21 as it's in a reasonable manner.
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You know, I don't know if this makes
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4.8. It just kind of blows me away when we get
over that far, and I'm not sure -- I guess, right
now, what seems to me would be appropriate in
that area over there. But I think that is too
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And I want to hear what other people
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MAYOR MERRILL: Stan.
MR. BASTIAN: I listened carefully to
the testimony this evening. I recognize that the
folks in The Colony Subdivision are very
what -- they very much like the 2002
Comprehensive Plan and the one -unit per acre
designation for that area.
The folks in the Flint Estates
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2 with greater density along State Street, not
3 residential, but mix -use designation for that
4 property, particularly south of the drain
5 ditch -- or the canal, rather.
6 There is some who very passionately
7 argued for a music conservatory, and see this as
8 an opportunity for something like that of great
9 worth to the City and to the community to have a
10 place where individuals who want to learn music
11 skills and be performers to have an opportunity
12 to do that.
13 I understand that if that happens that
14 basically if we're to pencil out for the
15 developer -- and I'm not sure if that's the thing
16 that we should put the greatest weight on -- but
17 as I understand it, it has to have some
18 additional density for that to work and provide
19 the property for the music conservatory at a
20 reasonable and, I guess, a very much reduced
21 price, so the music conservatory can happen.
22 Well, that's what I understand about
23 the testimony. There is testimony about the
24 impact of traffic, and the connection of one of
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2 would not want to have lots of traffic now going
3 through The Colony where we determined it would
4 be rather rural with only a ribbon of concrete to
5 hold the road in place and no sidewalks. So
6 that's a concern to me about how we can resolve
7 that issue.
8 The issue of the conservatory and
9 traffic from Park flowing into Flint Drive and
10 then down, you know, to take lessons or other
11 kind of traffic that may impact the area, that's
12 also a concern, because we stated in the
13 Comprehensive Pian that we wanted Flint Drive to
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15 So I don't know how to resolve that
16 issue in what we do here, unless we just simply
17 don't allow that road to develop to the north,
18 and just stub it off, and it doesn't have a
19 connection to Flint Drive. And in the future, as
20 the mix -use property develops to the west of
21 this, that there be some other avenue or way of
22 making that connection.
23 The ultimate question is: What is best
24 for the citizens of Eagle? What makes a quality
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since -- well, for -- this is what, my 13th year,
I think. And I've seen a lot of growth. I've
been here since 1979. Lynn Sedlacek has been
here all her life here. Born here, I believe.
MS. SEDLACEK: Born here.
MR. BASTIAN: Bom here. You know, I
remember the days when I could pull off the
roadway where the traffic coming across the
bridge on Eagle Road was only a one-way steel
bridge, and wait until the truck would come
across, and then we would pull over and go
across.
You know, it was quite rural and quite
a lovely community. Then we had communities like
Redwood Creek, and they brought a huge out cry of
the citizenry of how dare we put such a
high-density area close to five -acre parcels, and
just very vicious public testimony. You all were
very civil tonight. That was not very civil when
that occurred.
But we approved Redwood Creek anyway.
And then when the proposal was to have The Colony
Subdivision folks, then Redwood Creek came out in
large numbers opposing at least the density that
was proposed initially.
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2 that is parts of the community are, the folks
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6 Getting back to the question of
7 quality. I think that the homes that are being
8 proposed are high quality, design is spectacular,
9 very nice. The conservatory will be a very
10 beautiful building, and set of buildings, enhance
11 the quality of life, I think, for many people in
12 the City of Eagle.
13 State Street is going to become a
14 four -lane highway; two one direction, two the
15 other. That's going to happen. Whether we make
16 this decision tonight or not, that will happen.
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20 I remember going down Eagle Road when
21 it was just a two-lane roadway, and just farm
22 trucks, and not a very dense population. It was
23 a wonderful road. Now look at it.
24 I do favor a transitional density here.
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I think it works in the sense of getting a nice
facility like Rivendell. 4.8, I think, is a bit
high. I'm not sure where we should come down on
that.
Design review has suggested maximum
two -units per acre, and that would scuttle that
whole project and move it to some other place
where I don't know where it would end up.
Right now, that's all I have to say.
MS. SEDLACEK: Madam Mayor, Members
the Council, I very much would like to make this
school happen. Where I'm having -- and I do
support the mixed-use zoning along State Street.
Where I'm having trouble is the lot that sticks
up in the middle of Flint Drive. I would like to
see Flint Drive stay residential. So I would
like to see if we can figure out a way to make
that happen.
I think that as far as the Development
Agreement is concerned, on page 3 of 7 of the
Development Agreement, where it talks about the
following uses shall be prohibited, I would like
to see banks and financial institutions with
drive -up services and the flex space also go back
to being prohibited.
is that?
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2 that that's not a trade-off to increase the
3 density. I firmly believe that the people that
4 bought in The Colony, did their homework, and
5 checked it out, and bought knowing, or thinking
6 that they had the security of knowing what the
7 zoning was around that. I'm not going to betray
8 that. And so I can't go over two -units per acre.
9 I would prefer to leave it one -unit per one acre.
of 10 So that's where I'm leaning right now.
11 MAYOR MERRILL: Lynn, you talk about
12 the school area. If you take the school area out
13 of there --
14 MS. SEDLACEK: I'm thinking that we're
15 going to have to get rid of probably the assisted
16 living center, and bring both the school down and
17 the rest of the campus.
18 MAYOR MERRILL: Next to the highway?
19 MS. SEDLACEK: Next to the highway.
20 MAYOR MERRILL: I don't think that
21 would work for the school for their --
22 MS. SEDLACEK: Well, you know, I've
23 struggled with the school ever since I first
24 heard about it, because it's a beautiful concept.
25 I think it's needed. I think it would be a
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Which page
MS. SEDLACEK: 3 of 7.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: 3 of 7 and
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN SPEAKER: 3 of 7 and
2.7. I would like banks and financial
institutions with drive -up services and also the
flex space to be prohibited. So that would
remove 2.9. We would not allow that even with
the conditional use.
As far as the density, again, I would
like to see the mix -use stay just along State
Street, and that both sides of Flint remain
residential. The residential density, I think
you all know, I have a hard time going above
two -units per acre. So I would like to see, just
a throw out for discussion, an overall density
not to exceed two -houses per acre.
If the assisted living area goes away,
and we go strictly with residential, then I would
definitely want the transition to be the same
size as The Colony, which I believe is one -acre
lots or an R1 designation.
So I can't go with that high of density
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benefit. I think it would be a plus. I think it
would work well with the Camille Beckman project.
However, with what's presented to us
was that the school was looking for kind of
rural, back -to -nature type of setting, and that
works good for the school. But the school does
not necessarily work good for that kind of a
setting, and the people that are already there.
If they moved into their home, and have
a residential home where they've probably have
put a big investment in, and they want the quiet,
rural setting, they probably don't even want to
hear classical music, or I don't care how nice
the music is, they don't want the traffic. They
don't want to hear that outside noise at night.
That's my belief.
So I think it needs to come down to the
school. And if there is going to be any
buffering, if it is indeed going to be able to be
buffered so it's not a bother to the neighbor,
then perhaps the road can be buffered so it's not
a bother to the school.
MAYOR MERRILL: So do we need a motion
here?
MS. SEDLACEK: Madam Mayor, I'll try.
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2 Madam Mayor, I move that we approve
3 CPA-3-03RZ-803 with the following modifications:
4 That the mix -use designation stay only along the
5 streets that front -- only along the lots that
6 front State/Highway 44 and the ones as depicted
7 on Exhibit, I believe, B along Park Road. That
8 the overall density not exceed two -units per acre
9 in the mix -use designation.
10 If the assisted living center goes
11 away, it would be a transitional density not to
12 exceed an overall of two -per acre, but one -acre
13 lots against The Colony.
14 And the Development Agreement, the
15 prohibited uses would include banks, financial
16 institutions with drive -up services and the flex
17 space. That 2.9 be stricken. And I'm not going
18 to try and keep track of the numbers, so help me
19 out here.
20 That the condition listed as 2.13, that
21 the last sentence be stricken. It will state,
22 Lot 6, Block 2 shall be permitted to be developed
23 or -- excuse me -- I don't want that there,
24 because Lot 6, Block 2 is the one that sits up in
25 the -- that the musical arts school must be in
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2 it does not develop, it will be allowed with a
3 transitional residential with an overall density
4 not to exceed two -units per acre. That there be
5 a minimum of a 40 -foot building setback from
6 Highway 44.
7 MAYOR MERRILL: Assisted living
8 one-story.
9 MS. SEDLACEK: The assisted living, if
10 it is built, not exceed one-story units.
11 MAYOR MERRILL: Six -feet wide asphalt
12 or concrete sidewalks along State Street.
13 MS. SEDLACEK: And six -feet wide
14 asphalt or concrete sidewalks along State Street.
15 MAYOR MERRILL: Okay. There is a
16 motion. Is there a second for discussion?
17 MR. NORDSTROM: Second for discussion.
18 Are we debating two separate issues here, again?
19 One is an application asking for a Comprehensive
20 Plan amendment. The other part of the discussion
21 is how we see going forward ruling on this
22 particular area we call the --
23 MAYOR MERRILL: This is what we're
24 looking at right now, this Rivendell application
25 and Park Hampton, which is that development.
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MR. NORDSTROM: I understand that. But
I took some of Lynn's comments and part of her
motion based on the area and not the application,
I guess, is where I'm going with it.
MAYOR MERRILL: I think what she was
dealing with, Scott, was the residential part of
that next to Park Lane.
MR. NORDSTROM: Okay.
MS. SEDLACEK: Yes, my motion was
specific to this application. What complicated
it was, number one, where the school is seated
now or sited right now, I don't want that to be
mix use. And that's probably an area that we
need to discuss, because I would like to make the
school happen.
I think the density is too high. I've
always thought the density was too high, even in
the visioning sessions. I have to tell you, it
was the people that wanted to develop the
property, and the people that wanted to sell the
property for development are the ones that wanted
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2 I knew you people are out here.
3 didn't know what took you so long to show up and
4 say something about these proposed densities,
5 because it's been going on since we started the
6 Comp Plan -- when?
7 MAYOR MERRILL: Last January.
8 MS. SEDLACEK: -- Last January. So
9 anyway, it's spilled milk. So I have issues with
10 the lot that sits right in the middle. I don't
11 know that we should make that mix use.
12 And then the densities that we show on
13 the residential portion is in Exhibit B. I don't
14 have a problem with that. But if some of the mix
15 use suggested now, such as the assisted living
16 center goes away, then I think we have to address
17 possible residential densities for the entire
18 area under the mix -use zoning. Now, I think we
19 need to address how that's going to carry
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21 MAYOR MERRILL: So, Lynn, what are you
22 proposing then for where Rivendell is and will no
23 longer be, what are you thinking that should
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MAYOR MERRILL: The R2?
MS. SEDLACEK: An overall density not
to exceed R2, with transitioning over to bigger
lots with bigger lots. And I don't anticipate a
five -acre lot next to a five -acre lot. I would
say maximum density probably two -units per acre,
and not to go lower than a one- or a two -acre
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MAYOR MERRILL: Steve.
MR. GUERBER: I'm not bothered by the
Rivendell portion of the proposal. I guess,
because, number one, I think Mr. Woods' relatives
are the ones that are impacted on the north. So
I don't look at that as having impact when you
are the developer, and the developer's relatives,
and you feel comfortable with that.
And I think that there are buffers and
setbacks and landscaping built into this that
buffers those impacted on various sides by this
specific project. I think it's an appropriate
usage of that land down there.
If I had my druthers, yeah, I guess it
didn't go all the way up to Flint, but I'm not
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2 MS. SEDLACEK: Because of the buffering
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4 MR. GUERBER: Because I think there
5 is -- yes, because the buffering and the
6 ability -- I mean, even on the gentleman to the
7 west that would be impacted by it to have the
8 cottages there that, I think, are going to be
9 fairly low densities, fairly low usage. And the
10 setbacks that are involved in it, and the
11 landscaping that would take place on the back
12 side of those, I don't think there is going to be
13 a tremendous amount of impact on that.
14 I also think that over a period of
15 time -- and I don't know what that period is --
16 I think we will not see five -acre lots in that
17 area. I think that there will ultimately be a
18 transition.
19 And I think as other development takes
20 place around there, with one -acre lots or
21 whatever, these fives are going to go away. And
22 I think it's only call that, you know, at some
23 point in time somebody is going to say, you know,
24 I'm going to move away, and I'm going to make
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3 So I think we're going to see this
4 transition to something that's going to look
5 different than this. And I think we need to make
6 decisions that look into the of future what's
7 ultimately going to happen. And what to do now
8 that is going to ultimately make sense later on,
9 but maybe doesn't in the minds of some people at
10 this point in time.
11 As I said, I think the densities on the
12 townhouses are higher than I would like to see.
13 I think at the same time, half -acre townhouses
14 don't make a whole lot of sense to me, I guess.
15 I mean, go all the way over to, you know,
16 two -units per acre from the proposed 4.8 goes to
17 the other end of the spectrum, I guess, in my
18 mind. And I'm thinking that a 3 or point 2, or
19 something 3.2165 would be something that I would
20 feel, I guess, more comfortable with.
21 I think the fact that this is a half
22 mile away from The Colony, for example, which is
23 what we've heard about primarily, people in The
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And when we look at what's being
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Lane. So going into that transition, I guess,
doesn't bother me at this point in time, I guess,
as far as this proposal.
And I guess to a certain extent, yeah,
we've got somebody holding a gun to our heads
saying if we can't have adequate densities, then
the school doesn't take place. But I think if we
had the capability of being able to make
decisions about what ought to be happening in
Eagle, and we didn't have to, you know, look at
the economics of it, it would be a whole lot
easier.
But I think in this case, we do look at
some trade-offs, and say, you know, the proposal
here puts an isolated area away from where
everybody is right now by a half mile. And in
return for allowing this higher density in an
area that I think is going to develop with some
higher densities in commercial and those kinds of
things, that's a better spot than something down
in the middle of an area that may have one -acre
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2 So going to a 3, or 3.2, or something
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4 be a real addition to Eagle, and just one more
5 reason that people are going to say, that's a
6 really unique community, and it's an appropriate
7 place for things like that to happen, I think I
8 am comfortable with.
9 MS. SEDLACEK: However, if the assisted
10 living facility goes away, that would be
11 developed as residential.
12 MR. GUERBER: Well, if that assisted
13 living goes away, then they are not in -- as I
14 understand it, they are not in compliance with
15 the Development Agreement, and they would have to
16 come in and tell us what they are going to do
17 there instead of that, instead of just saying
18 automatically it becomes something else.
19 If it doesn't develop as a music
20 cultural school with cottages and related
21 ancillary uses, generally as shown in Concept A
22 and B, then basically they have to come back to
23 us. And my observation is from the attachment,
24 there is an assisted living facility there. And
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3 MS. SEDLACEK: Per Section 4.1.
4 MR. GUERBER: Per 2.13. I mean, that
5 seems to say --
6 MAYOR MERRILL: We did the same thing
7 as the assisted living as this.
8 MR. GUERBER: Isn't the assisted living
9 in this overall area?
10 MS. SEDLACEK: Only on the concept map.
11 MR. GUERBER: It is in the exhibit,
12 though; is it not? It's in the exhibit. You
13 know, it's on the right-hand side, as I look at
14 the exhibit; Exhibits A and B.
15 MAYOR MERRILL: What you would have to
16 do is you would have to add a 2.16 talking about
17 the assisted living shall be limited to
18 one-story, and then also put it into the same
19 thing that shall be developed only as a --
20 MR. GUERBER: I mean, it speaks only to
21 the music cultural art school. But it should
22 also, I would think, say and the assisted living
23 center. Because I'm looking at the map right
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And if they don't put that in there,
and they want to put something else, they've got
to come back to us, because they are in violation
of this agreement.
MAYOR MERRILL: One of the things I
think that's really important if you do this,
Council, is that many times we've have concepts
come to us, and they tell us this is a conceptual
plan only. We're hanging all of our -- we're
putting all our eggs in one basket with the idea
that this will be developed as presented. And
what you want to make sure is that that concept
plan is exactly --
MR. GUERBER: Exactly. If it isn't
developed like this, then they have to come back
in, and say, you know, here's why we're not
developing it that way, or here's what we want to
do instead. And then we go back in to the public
hearing process, and go through and see what
we've done at this point in time as far as
development of what should go on that site.
MAYOR MERRILL: Scott.
MR. NORDSTROM: Well, again, I just
will reiterate the fact of what everyone else has
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Street needs to be mix use. I think the overall
impact of the density is too high, and I think we
need to moderate it, which I think, we're trying
to do with Lynn's proposal.
I think this is a tremendous gift to
the City, as far as being unique in the way we
try and have different offerings in this City.
So I just hope that we haven't completely
annihilate the developer's opportunity to find a
way to make this work.
MAYOR MERRILL: Any further discussion?
Stan.
MR. BASTIAN: Well, I don't know. Yes,
I have some thoughts. And I think if we go a
minimum of two -units per acre, the Concept Plan
as presented certainly will not develop.
MR. NORDSTROM: A maximum of two.
MR. BASTIAN: A maximum, excuse me, of
two -units per acre, I don't think -- I would be
surprised if the music conservatory could work.
Maybe it can. I don't like the high density
there.
I think everything south of the
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2 north of that area, I think for most folks, is
3 not going to be a big problem. But the property
4 immediately to the west with that parking lot
5 fronting that property could be a problem.
6 MAYOR MERRILL: That could be changed.
7 MR. BASTIAN: And I think that concept
8 could probably be changed. But I think what
9 we're proposing here tonight is basically a
10 concept. And the concept is we're looking at the
11 maximum density we want to allow in this area.
12 And we want to make a transition from that to
13 one -acre lots along The Colony Subdivision.
14 So the question is: Is two -houses per
15 acre the kind of thing we want to see there in
16 the maximum density. And I know that across the
17 street there is going to be commercial
18 development, more mix -use offices. It kind of
19 makes sense to have the development possibly
20 similar to Red Leaf Heights, and that's like
21 three units per acre, I think.
22 So I would be willing to go to that
23 kind of mix; three -units per acre all the way up
24 to -- I mean, all the way down to one -unit per
25 acre as a transition. You would see quality
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proposal that we have before us this evening: the
small cottages and bungalow -type houses would go
away. And I think Rivendell Conservatory would
go away as well.
But if that's what we want
collectively, I suppose that's the way we should
vote.
MS. SEDLACEK: I don't know if that's
what we want. That might be the result. But,
again, we have to decide whether, you know, how
important is the density to us. This is an area
where we've stood strong through a lot of
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So, Madam Mayor, I call for the
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MAYOR MERRILL: The question has been
called for. All those in favor?
THE COUNCIL: Aye.
MAYOR MERRILL: Opposed?
THE COUNCIL: Nay.
MAYOR MERRILL: Thanks. Well, I don't
want to lose Rivendell. I think Rivendell is one
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2 and we were discussing densities, and what was
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4 I have seen -- I wish I had the disk
5 tonight for everybody to see it. It is a
6 beautiful opportunity for this community. It is
7 what we have been trying to do is put together a
8 cultural center for people for performing arts, a
9 place for our kids to be. I go and watch grand
10 kids try to go to their dance recitals, and they
11 have to go two nights clear over to Nampa and
12 Caldwell out of the valley, and it takes all of
13 those tax dollars out of here.
14 One of the things we were looking at
15 with this Comprehensive Plan that drove us to
16 this was the thought that what was happening in
17 the counties surrounding us was increasing our
18 density. I did a little calculation on that.
19 If we follow this new Comprehensive
20 Plan based upon the densities that are out here,
21 and we've already eliminated some on the Chinden
22 area up there, we would have increased the
23 population in the next 20 to 30 years plus by
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25 That seems huge. It seems huge when we
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2 where we are today up to 16,000. However, if we
3 didn't do anything out here, and just allowed it
4 to happen as the County has allowed it to
5 develop, it's nearly four times the density of
6 what the City of Eagle would approve, and it
7 comes up between 60 and 72,000 in population.
8 That's a big difference. So we became very
9 proactive into what's happened out here.
10 The next thing that we had to look at
11 is if we put all these people out here, how are
12 we going to sustain them? What is our tax base
13 going to be? Do the taxes rest on the residence,
14 on the backs of the residences, or do we start
15 looking at some commercial and some businesses in
16 this area that can sustain the folks that live
17 out there to decrease the number of trips per day
18 that they have to go into the city to work?
19 Perhaps they can find some jobs out here and work
20 in this area and not have to travel so far.
21 We looked at the densities around the
22 schools for the same reason. For the kids that
23 could walk and be involved in those communities
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2 the ValleyRide, that's the alternative
3 transportation for the valley, when we try to
4 figure out what are we going to do with traffic
5 in the future for this whole Treasure Valley.
6 And we're looking at corridors, and looking at
7 State Street, and Eagle Road, and 55, and
8 Fairview, and Franklin Road, and Overland for the
9 future. Way out here, what are we going to do to
10 move people through this valley without grid
11 lock?
12 And so as we went through this
13 visioning plan, that became a big part of this is
14 to situate folks in an area, in an isolated area,
15 a more condensed area where they could actually,
16 after we're gone and our kids are gone, hop on a
17 transit and get clear into Boise, and go to Boise
18 State University, or to the hospital, or to
19 downtown, or get up to Eagle Road and do the same
20 thing.
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22 densities. And my thought is, and I've always
23 been -- I can justify taking the same number of
24 lots on those acreages if they were going to be
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3 number of people in this city.
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5 the half acres. And I certainly can't go with
6 the 4.8 no matter what happens. I think that a
7 compromise is the three. And I don't want to
8 lose the Rivendell. I think that that is going
9 to be a beautiful addition. And as far as
10 property values, it will increase property values
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13 try to keep the Rivendell. I guess the vote is
14 two to two with the half -acre lots is what we're
15 looking at. And I would vote nay on that.
16 Which brings us back to another vote
17 for denial at this point. The City attorney.
18 (City attorney inaudible.)
19 MAYOR MERRILL: So then at this point,
20 if there were another motion made it could not
21 happen at this point?
22 MR. NORDSTROM: No, it can.
23 MR. GUERBER: It should, or it dies
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MR. GUERBER: So I'll make it. I'm
going to basically propose the same thing that
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items: The first being allowing the density of
up to three lots per acre, and the other being
allowing the Rivendell as proposed, including
the -- what is that goofy L -shape piece north
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MAYOR MERRILL: Lot 6, Block 2, the
assisted living.
MR. GUERBER: And follow her motion in
regard to the assisted living center limitations.
The sidewalk, curb and gutters, the 40 -foot
setback from Highway 44, and striking the line,
the second line in 2.13, and the limitations on
bank and financial institutions.
MS. SEDLACEK: And the one-story for --
MR. GUERBER: Yes, and the one-story,
which I think I mentioned the wording in regard
to the assisted living center being one-story.
(City attorney inaudible.)
MR. GUERBER: That the development
would be in substantial conformance with the
Comprehensive Plan in regard to transition and
concept.
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2 MAYOR MERRILL: Discussion, Scott.
3 MR. NORDSTROM: So under a designation
4 like that, how do you see the lots feathering
5 both ways from Park Lane to the border of The
6 Colony.
7 MR. GUERBER: I see it transitioning
8 the same way Lynn explained it, with one acres
9 adjacent to The Colony, and halves between this
10 and the three -per acre ones --
11 MR. NORDSTROM: Are we concentrating --
12 MR. GUERBER: -- In this area. And
13 actually this motion doesn't affect what happens,
14 I guess, in the rest of the area, because we are
15 going to look at that later on when we really
16 designate what's going to happen to that area, at
17 least that's my understanding. We're just
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19 particular lots that are being developed that are
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21 MAYOR MERRILL: Let's make sure it gets
22 out to all of the affected parties that might be
23 the best way to do that. We would love to be
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3 Okay. We have a motion, and we have a
4 second. Any further discussion? Lynn.
5 MS. SEDLACEK: Madam Mayor, I believe
6 R3, that's high density. And we don't even know
7 if that's enough. It's still a concept.
8 MR. GUERBER: That's fine. If it's not
9 enough, then we won't see the project.
10 MAYOR MERRILL: Motion and then
11 seconded. All those in favor?
12 THE COUNCIL: Aye.
13 MAYOR MERRILL: Opposed?
14 THE COUNCIL: Nay.
15 MAYOR MERRILL: Motion carries. Okay.
16 MS. SEDLACEK: Madam Mayor, there is a
17 lot of confusion, even on my part, as to whether
18 or not we did make -- this is what happens when
19 you go until 2:00 in the morning like we did last
20 time, or 1:00 in the morning.
21 MAYOR MERRILL: I think it was 1:30.
22 MS. SEDLACEK: Whatever.
23 MAYOR MERRILL: 2:00 when I got home.
24 MS. SEDLACEK: Have we voted? There is
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2 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: No, we
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4 MAYOR MERRILL: Staff is telling me
5 that we did, and that we approved it.
6 MS. SEDLACEK: Staff is telling me that
7 we did, and we approved it. We did it when we
8 looked at the Ricks' property and when we looked
9 at this entire area. And I don't think a lot of
10 us were concentrating on this. I think we were
11 concentrating on the area west of Park. I know I
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14 the motion, I didn't address the fact that we
15 allowed, I believe, six -units per acre
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17 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Well, we
18 still can debate that, because it's in the next
19 item in the agenda; isn't it?
20 MAYOR MERRILL: The Village planning
21 area is the next area on the agenda.
22 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Where is
23 tonight's agenda?
24 MS. SEDLACEK: Madam Mayor, how do we
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2 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: You went
3 over the Park Lane planning area last time, and
4 then I'll let you go from there. You actually
5 took testimony, closed testimony. And then a
6 motion was made by Lynn, and it was approved
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8 MS. SEDLACEK: But the motion addressed
9 this area over here. But this is where I made a
10 change.
11 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKERS: Yes, the
12 motion only addressed changes in that area.
13 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: A point of
14 order, please.
15 MAYOR MERRILL: Okay. Thank you. City
16 attorney.
17 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Let me ask
18 this question first before the attorney responds.
19 We still have before us CPA -2-0-4, the western
20 sub area plan. We have been acting on pieces and
21 parts of this, but we still have to adopt a whole
22 plan, as I understand. At the point we do that,
23 can't we not -- can we make changes to the plan
24 as we adopt the final version?
25 (City attorney inaudible.)
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2 Members of the Council, there is two approaches
3 you can take. A motion was made, and a decision
4 was made on that section. You may either reopen
5 for reconsideration and do that now, or you can
6 postpone it if you wish to reopen it and
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11 adopting the Comprehensive Plan Amendments as a
12 group, you can go back and do it then. It may be
13 more efficient, given the testimony that you've
14 already heard tonight, if you wish to go back and
15 reconsider your decision, you can certainly vote
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Madam
Mayor, my preference would be to vote to
reconsider the Park Lane planning area as
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western sub area plan. And I have one particular
item that I would like to change, and that is
density not to exceed -- and it says in this
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per acre near Eagte High School.
MAYOR MERRILL: Not to exceed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Not to
exceed -- that Is not three -units per acre, but
not to exceed three -units per acre. And if we
can do that, that's what I would like to do.
MR. GUERBER: Madam Mayor, before you
do that, I need to make note of the fact that
last week when you were considering that and
making the decisions, I was sitting in my car
with my cell phone in Island Park trying to find
a right spot where I could actually pick up a
cell, which I did, until the cell phone finally
died. And I was connected -- no, I was not
connected at this point. I was connected on
about the first four Items, and this was not one
of them, and I had lost you by that point in
time. So I'm going to abstain from your
consideration and discussion of this issue.
FEMALE CITY ATTORNEY: Madam Mayor, you
would first need to make a motion to reopen and
reconsider.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: And I think
that has been made by the Mayor.
MS. SEDLACEK: Madam Mayor, I would
move that we reopen and reconsider the Park Lane
planning area.
MAYOR MERRILL: Is there a second?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Second.
MAYOR MERRILL: All those In favor?
THE COUNCIL: Aye.
MAYOR MERRILL: The motion carries.
Now, what we can do is we've heard
testimony tonight on how you feel about this
area. If you want to go back over that all over
again, we can do that again, or we can go ahead
and have the Council start deliberating and
discussion on that. It's up to you folks.
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UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN SPEAKER: Could we
put it together and make a quick summary for the
people that are not here?
MAYOR MERRILL: Would you like to take
a little break and do that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Let's do
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MAYOR MERRILL: Sure. Let's take a
quick five -minutes, again, and then well
re -group.
(A recess was held.)
EAGLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
IN RE: PARK LANE PLANNING AREA,
EAGLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
) City of Eagle
) Comprehensive Plan
) No. CPA -2-0-4
EXCERPT OF TESTIMONY OF THE CITY OF EAGLE COUNCIL MEETING
TAKEN ON SEPTEMBER 7, 2004
TRANSCRIBED BY:
COLLEEN P. KUNE, CSR No. 345
Notary Public
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2 CITY OF EAGLE COUNCIL MEETING, IN RE: PARK LANE
3 PLANNING AREA, was taken before MAYOR NANCY C.
4 MERRILL, and the City of Eagle Council Members,
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1 MAYOR MERRILL: Okay. I would like to
2 open this public hearing and public testimony for
3 this part of the Park Lane Planning Area in the
4 Comprehensive Plan, the CPA -2-0-4, City of Eagle.
5 UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN SPEAKER: Madam
6 Mayor, with regard to this particular topic, I
7 know that you voted to reopen and reconsider.
8 The only difficulty is that there were people who
9 attended the last hearing, who provided testimony
10 and listened to your decision at that time, those
11 individuals would not -- unless they are
12 personally present tonight, would not have any
13 information about that.
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15 but I did want to have you look at who testified
16 that night, and find out if any of those
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18 MAYOR MERRILL: The people that
19 testified are -- give me one second as I flip
20 through my book.
21 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Why don't
22 we go ahead with the testimony.
23 MAYOR MERRILL: Okay. Let's take your
24 testimony while we go through that. So let's
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PAGE 2 first duly sworn to tell the truth relating to
5 3 said cause, testified as follows:
10 4 MAYOR MERRILL: State your name and
17 5 address, please.
6 MR. BARKER: Joel Barker, 917 North
7 Cove Colony. I am a resident of The Colony, and
8 also a member on the homeowners' association
9 board. And I have been coerced to now speak for
10 this group.
11 And in our five-minute discussion, our
12 concerns are the density, the transition, and the
13 access points. Because it is our understanding
14 there are currently two stub roads on the western
15 edge of The Colony Subdivision that go into this
16 property on the west, that now, based upon what
17 has occurred in the approval of the multi -use
18 area on the southern portion, we basically now
19 landlocked this portion between Eagle High School
20 and The Colony. And we see two access points to
21 that land through The Colony, which could raise
22 issues with further density.
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2 Feather to the north, because we've now blocked
3 it off to the south. And so, again, access
4 points when most traffic is coming off of State
5 Street, that there would be a significant amount
6 of access into this property.
7 We believe -- we understand the
8 multi -use need for State Street. We do
9 understand the move towards up to three on this
10 piece of property next to Park Avenue, because
11 west of Park Avenue, it is going to become more
12 commercial. We already have Eagle High School
13 there, and the activity in that property.
14 But since we are now talking about a
15 property that is between Eagle High School and
16 The Colony over to the north by Floating Feather,
17 we really would believe that the density in this
18 property should remain at one unit per acre
19 because of the access points, and to be
20 consistent with our property, and the properties
21 across the street on Floating Feather and
22 maintaining that consistency.
23 So thank you very much.
24 MAYOR MERRILL: Thank you very much.
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3 to that area, I ask for reconsideration just
4 specifically for the area between The Colony and
5 the high school.
6 MAYOR MERRILL: Okay.
7 UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN SPEAKER: Are we
8 clear on that?
9 MAYOR MERRILL: Yes.
10 UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN SPEAKER: Are we in
11 agreement on that?
12 MAYOR MERRILL: Yes. Is everybody okay
13 on that, just in that area?
14 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: And, Mayor,
15 I also would like to point out that we approved
16 this at a density not to exceed six units per
17 acre near Eagle High School, and that's a
18 concem. Because what the representatives in The
19 Colony are saying this evening is we would like
20 to keep it at one unit per acre maximum density,
21 which is significantly different than the maximum
22 density of six units per acre. We just wanted to
23 hear this, so that we could lower that density to
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you who testified, and what they testified
towards.
MAYOR MERRILL: Okay.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN SPEAKER: Do you
want me to do that? Is that the best way to do
it?
MAYOR MERRILL: Okay.
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Ricks, he testified dealing with the professional
office designation off State Street and Park
Lane. Pete Centarino testified concerning
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commercial designation. Kathy Nahas testified in
support of Pete Centarino's request. Mark Butler
testified wanting to limit service commercial to
three acres at State and Park with the
availability of food and drive-throughs.
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development along State Street. Thad Rogeny
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commercial at the corner of Park and State. Matt
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4 MAYOR MERRILL: Okay. So everyone
5 that -- Mark Butler is here, Mr. Siren is here,
6 Mr. Ricks is here. So I do not believe there was
7 anybody that testified about this density on this
8 location; is that correct?
9 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I did with
10 the mixed use.
11 MAYOR MERRILL: But not on this
12 particular property here. So I think we're safe.
13 UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN SPEAKER: The policy
14 in question -- if I can go further, ma'am. If
15 you could mark on the exhibit, so we're all
16 clear, the exact area that you are talking about,
17 and that could be just part of the motion.
18 MAYOR MERRILL: Can that be part of the
19 motion, Mr. Motion Maker, would you amend your
20 motion in what to reconsider, and identify just
21 that area, Mr. Motion Maker?
22 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yes.
23 UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN SPEAKER: Okay. The
24 area north of State. Madam Mayor, I move that we
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3 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: And I
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5 MAYOR MERRILL: There is a motion and a
6 second. All in favor?
7 AUDIENCE: Aye.
8 MAYOR MERRILL: Motion carried.
9 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I abstain.
10 MAYOR MERRILL: And one abstention.
11 We've heard from the adjoining property
12 owners from The Colony. Is there anybody who
13 would like to speak to this issue?
14 Mr. Ricks, go ahead.
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16 first duly sworn to tell the truth relating to
17 said cause, testified as follows:
18 MAYOR MERRILL: Thank you.
19 MR. RICKS: Tom Ricks. I reside at
20 1515 North Park Lane. John Wood didn't stick
21 around, and I apologize to him, because I am
22 probably the one who initially got a raft for his
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irrigating, which I enjoy doing.
It's interesting how history has
repeated itself. I, like Council Guerber,
participated in the Horizon Task Force in the
late '80s, and was part of the hot bed of the
Comprehensive Plan in 1993. It's very similar to
how it is resulting tonight.
As you remember, for those of you who
were on Council, and, Steve, were you Mayor at
that time? The Horizon Task Force came up with a
series of envisioning sessions very similar of
how we did this since January, and basically, it
was comprised of groups of citizens from all over
the area of Eagle getting together and
envisioning something that would be good for
Eagle.
All the area that paralleled Highway 44
going west, and also Eagle Road, and some other
areas that were high density and potential
traffic areas were designated as higher density,
and residential areas also, just because that's
where the utility companies, as you remember,
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2 R-4, four to the acre, until these public
3 meetings came, and basically the people from
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5 Scott -- came out in force and basically said
6 that's not what they wanted. They didn't see
7 that even as the entities basically said that's
8 what would be ideal for that area.
9 And so in a series of compromises and
10 whatnot, the compromise being that the Comp Plan
11 of 1993 was formulated with the designated
12 densities as they are now. We are in the same
13 situation right now where entities and other
14 people envisioning sessions have said that higher
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18 that's where the utilities would be.
19 I guess as a property owner, and then I
20 have probably a couple of hats, and also
21 developer, and farmer. And as you know, part
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23 interesting to see the people out of The Colony
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3 If you go over there at Countryside
4 about 7:30 in the morning where it hooks into
5 Redwood Creek, there is a big avenue of people
6 coming from the west to the east enjoying the
7 things that we put in.
8 And like I said, that's fine. We put
9 them in for public use. They are being used.
10 But it's things that they don't have. But we put
11 them in, because we got a little bit higher
12 density over there, and we are able to afford to
13 put those things in. For one acre lots, the
14 economics don't allow you to put in a whole lot
15 of amenities. And so you stick with basically
16 roads that don't have sidewalk, or don't have
17 curb. And basically, just a borrow ditch that
18 ACHD hates, because the property owners never
19 maintain them the way they should.
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21 density, you are able to do sidewalks. You are
22 able to do curb and gutter. You are able to do
23 drainage the way it should be handled, instead of
24 borrow ditches, things just work a little better.
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3 Creek come and enjoy those things that we
4 provided. Fine. That's great. We're glad to be
5 of service to the citizens of The Colony and to
6 Redwood Creek. In order to afford those things,
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8 Behind the high school, if you want to
9 consider it is a high school, it is basically an
10 R-40 or R-45. That's what's over there. It's
11 probably the largest high school in the state.
12 You have 2,300 students that attend there. So if
13 you want to carefully layout the close density,
14 you are at an R-45.
15 So is it really something that we
16 should maintain all the way over to the high
17 school? Is it an R-1 where you have such a mass
18 density there in the high school. I don't think
19 it makes sense. The utilities are there. The
20 transportation facilities are there. That's a
21 hub. It's a hub for activity, and it will
22 continue to be a hub for activity.
23 A little bit on transportation. We are
24 plugged into two areas that are the -- into the
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2 accesses that we can use, although I really don't
3 want to use the private road that goes along West
4 Nephi into the seminary building, although we
5 could force that if we had to by contract.
6 That would not be passable, because you
7 would open up that whole area to basically high
8 school traffic, and that probably would not be
9 the best. We do have the possibility -- but we
10 do have a possibility of providing access up to
11 Floating Feather.
12 MAYOR MERRILL: Lean a little bit
13 closer there.
14 MR. RICKS: So that would eliminate
15 part of that problem going into The Colony, which
16 I think it probably would. As you watch the
17 traffic flow out of The Colony and out of Redwood
18 Creek, a lot of people go into Floating Feather
19 and then out, because of Highway 44. And if you
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21 flow, they go to Floating Feather, and then they
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23 capability of probably providing other access
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2 I would just like to not caution the
3 Council, but ask the Council if they would maybe
4 consider a little bit of increased density along
5 there along the high school. It makes total
6 sense. One -acre lots are privacy lots. We found
7 that out in Countryside. It is a special
8 critter. It's special type of buyer. That buys
9 one acre lots. They like their privacy. They
10 like their peace. You don't get that right up
11 next to a high school when you have drums playing
12 at ball games going on up until 10:00 at night.
13 It's a not a privacy lot any more. And so the
14 marketing capability of marketing one -acre lots
15 up to next Eagle High is going to be extremely
16 tough. So I think those are some of the
17 considerations you need to take into account when
18 you designate this area.
19 I don't mind the R-6 acre. That is a
20 little high. We didn't say anything, but it was
21 a little high. We wanted to do patio -home type
22 situations back there that I think would
23 contribute to that area. If that's not what the
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4 MAYOR MERRILL: Thank you. I
5 appreciate that. Raise a hand? Yeah.
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8 said cause, testified as follows:
9 MAYOR MERRILL: State your name and
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11 MS. THOMAS: Linda Thomas, 2746 West
12 Wind Drive in The Colony. I understand the
13 difficulty of marketing a large lot next to a
14 high school. High schools are noisy. And I'm
15 not for saying that they must all be one acre
16 lots. That would be unrealistic to expect anyone
17 to move into a one -acre home next to the high
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19 However, I would remind the Council
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21 one acre, because across the street, across
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1 MAYOR MERRILL: Thank you.
2 Okay, Council. Anything from staff
3 additional on this area? Then we'll look for
4 Council for discussion.
5 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Mayor, if I
6 may go first.
7 MAYOR MERRILL: Yes.
8 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I think
9 that the resolution of the previous matter before
10 the Council with a transition from a highest
11 density of three acres -- three houses per acre
12 transitioning to one house per acre next to The
13 Colony makes sense. I would like to have that
14 same density opportunity here in the community
15 that would be just north of the area we approved
16 with three houses per acre as the maximum density
17 transitioning to one house per acre near The
18 Colony on the east of that property.
19 I think that that would provide
20 sufficient opportunity to vary house sizes, and
21 enable a developer to provide amenities that
22 would be needed in this kind of a development. I
23 think it would work.
24 MAYOR MERRILL: Is that motion.
25 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: That's not
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2 motion if he would like to.
3 MAYOR MERRILL: So you are saying the
4 overall density, the maximum density would be not
5 to exceed three units per acre, and it would
6 transition from higher density over to the high
7 school to approximately one -acre lots along The
8 Colony?
9 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Correct.
10 MAYOR MERRILL: Scott.
11 MR. NORDSTROM: Just a point of
12 clarification, if we could look at the map again.
13 Are we also talking about the acreage north of
14 the high school in this discussion?
15 MAYOR MERRILL: No, that was to remain
16 one acre. Just the yellow.
17 MR. NORDSTROM: That stays the current
18 designation, which is?
19 MAYOR MERRILL: One.
20 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: That's up
21 on the bench; isn't it?
22 MAYOR MERRILL: Yes. See the
23 elevations drop up there.
24 MR. NORDSTROM: I make a motion that we
25 amend our previous decision for the Park Place
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not to exceed -- I'm striking six, and changing
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Seconded.
MAYOR MERRILL: Further discussion?
Hearing no discussion, all those in favor.
THE AUDIENCE: Aye.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Abstain.
MAYOR MERRILL: Three ayes, the motion
is carried. So that's done. Go home. Please go
to sleep for us.
(The proceedings concluded.)
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2 REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE
3 I, COLLEEN P. KLINE, CSR No. 345, Certified
4 Shorthand Reporter, certify:
5 That the foregoing proceedings were
6 transcribed by me from a copy of the City of
7 Eagle taped recording of the proceedings;
8 That the foregoing is a true and correct
9 record of all testimony given, to the best of my
10 ability;
11 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I set my hand and seal
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Barb Cerda
From: Jim Murray [jim.murray@cshga.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:24 PM
To: Barb Cerda; Bill Vaughan
Cc: Lisa Holyfield (E-mail); Lisa Holyfield (E-mail 2); Aaron Harrigfeld
Subject: Rock Pointe Condominiums
Attachments: 5thFloor_1228150912_001.pdf
Barb,
Sorry for the late arrival of this letter.
In summary, we are asking that SSC #16 be further clarified by DR Board Member MacDonald (specifically the
first sentence) and if the DR Board wishes to discuss this with us (as applicant) this evening, we are prepared to
participate. We cannot stress the importance of maintaining the schedule of moving this DR application before
the January 9th City Council meeting. The Holiday schedule, coupled by the absences at the last DR meeting
have placed this pressure on tonight's meeting.
We will bring copies of this letter as well as a supporting photo survey tonight and are prepared to discuss this
particular SSC. Thank you in advance for your time.
James G. Murray, AIA
CSHQA
C.W. Moore Plaza
250 South 5th Street
Boise, Idaho 83702
(208) 429-4090 (Direct)
(208) 343-4638 (Fax)
(208) 869-3306 (Cell)
E -Mail: jim.murray@cshga.com
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use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, duplication,
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notify the sender by redly e-mail. :)none or !ax anc destroy any and all copies of the correspondence. Thank you.
1/3/2007
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December 28 2006
Via .PDF to Barb Ceuta, City of Eagle
City of Eagle
Design Review Board
Eagle City Hall
660 East Civic Lane
Eagle, Idaho 83616
Re: DR -104-06/727 E. State LLC
Rock Pointe
Eagle, Idaho
Project No. 02239 000
Ladies and Gentlemen:
As you know, we represent 727 E State Street, LLC ("727 E. State") in its proposed conversion of the
Peregrine Cove apartment building into a condominium project called Rock Pointe The Design Review
Board's (the "DR Board") December 28 agenda includes the adoption of recommended findings of fact
and conclusions of law for Rock Pointe. It is very important for the scheduling of this project that you
forward your recommendations to the city council on December 28. However, there are a couple of
considerations that we want to bring to your attention for your discussions_
For the record, 727 E State has indicated to CSFIQA that upon first approaching this project with staff
agreed to submit a design review application for Rock Pointe based on discussions with the city staff that
the city would not require extensive exterior remodeling that would be unduly expensive or would
compromise the existing building envelopes With the exception of constructing the new clubhouse, 727
E State is simply changing the ownership structure of existing buildings from apartments to
condominiums For that reason, 727 E. State maintains that the project is not a "development" that would
trigger mandatory design review for the existing buildings. Therefore, we believe 727 E. State's
participation in design review for this project is voluntary, and we believe 727 E. State is entitled to have
its condominium plat processed whether or not it participates in design review. Nevertheless, 727 E
State wants to work with the DR Board and the City to improve the appearance of these buildings.
We previously brought to your attention our concerns about the ambiguity of site-specific condition 16,
which requires 727 E State to add rock facing to the vertical elements of the project pursuant to a design
to be approved by staff and a member of the DR Board. We have met with the staff and Board Member
MacDonald to determine the intent of this provision, which we now understand would require full height
rock facing on the exterior vertical elements of all the buildings. We wanted to be sure this is the intent of
the DR Board prior to forwarding this to the city council If it is not, we ask that you clarify the matter in
your findings on the 28".
people who listen - design that speaks
boise • sacramento • los angeles
www cshqa com
City of Eagle
Design Review Board
December 28, 2006
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If the full DR Board supports the rock -facing requirement, we wanted you to be aware we will raise
significant concerns about this requirement to the city council. We also have significant concerns about
the requirement for installing the exterior window trim on over 300 windows and doors. These
requirements add significant construction costs to this project and can create the potential for future water
leakage and damage of the existing building envelop. However, we understand the DR Board has already
made its decision and is now simply documenting it by adopting findings and conclusions. Therefore, we
are prepared to take up these issues with the city council.
We appreciate your time and effort on this matter and are prepared to discuss this with you on the 28'x', if
the DR Board desires to. Thank you.
Sincerely,
James G. Murray, AIA
Applicant Representative
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Sharon Bergmann
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From: Sharon Bergmann
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:27 PM
To: City Council Grp; Susan Buxton (seb@msbtlaw.com)
Subject: FW: Temporary Gates at Hill Road Park Phase II
Sharon K. l3rrgnutnn C.M.C.
City Clerk/Treasurer
City of E1g(c, Idaho
P.U. l3ox 1520
208.939-6813 ext. 202
Original Message
From: Rebecca [mailto:kj@kjcorporation.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:04 PM
To: Sharon Bergmann
Cc: 'Jim Murray'
Subject: Temporary Gates at Hill Road Park Phase II
Sharon:
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At the Tuesday night City Council meeting, it is my understanding, that the City of Eagle would like K -J Corporation, Inc. to block
off traffic to Hill Road Park until construction is complete. We are planning to install temporary chain link gates at each entrance of
the parking lot lust off of Hill Road. We hope this will alleviate vehicular traffic into the park. We will also be posting signs on the
gates stating that the "park is closed until construction is complete". Please let me know if this meets with the City's approval, at
such time we will begin installation of the gates
Thanks
Jack Young
K -J Corporation, Inc.
2316 N. Cole Road Suite D
Boise, Idaho 83704
Phone: (208) 378-8713
Fax: (208) 378-9367
1/10/2007
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Zoning AdministrationGI
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CPA -11-06- City of Eagle
January 11, 2007
Map of land use changes per January 9, 2006 Discussions
Please review the attached map in reference to the changes to the NE comer of State Street (Hwy44) and
State Highway 16. .
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CPA -3-06- Countyland Subdivision
January 11, 2007
Development Agreement per January 9, 2006 Discussions
Please review the revised development agreement in reference to the change in the zoning designation
from R -3 -DA to R -2 -DA and condition 2.12 concerning the restriction of swales within the planter strip.
Review of the application files shows that .132 cfs of irrigation water for the development. Staff has
requested that they provide the city copies of he current shares for the property from the Ballantyne Ditch
Company.
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K:1Plaoaiag DeptlEagie App onACPA120061CPA-3-06 ine2.doa
Recording Requested 13y and
When Recorded Return to:
City of Eagle
P.O. Box 1520
Eagle, Idaho 83 616
January 16, 2007 Version
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
For Recording Purposes Do
Not Write Above This Line
This Development Agreement, made and entered into on the date as indicated herein, by
and between the City of Eagle, a municipal corporation in the State of Idaho ("Eagle"), by and
through its Mayor, and JLJ Enterprises, Inc. ("Applicant").
WHEREAS, the Applicant is the owner of record of certain real estate located at 2556 W.
State Street, Eagle, Idaho, ("Property"), as specifically defined in the attached legal description
(Exhibit A) which is the subject of an application for Rezone identified as Rezone Application
No. RZ-10-06; and
WHEREAS, the proposed development includes properties within an area currently
zoned RUT(Rural Urban Transition); and
WHEREAS, the Applicant desires an R -23 -DA (Residential Three Two with a
development agreement) zoning classification to develop a twelve (12) lot residential
subdivision on the above described property, which is herein referred to as the "Property"; and
WHEREAS, the Planning and Zoning Commission and the City Council of Eagle have
determined that allowing an R--3-2 zoning designation for the Property must be limited with a
development agreement to prevent undue damage to, and to otherwise be in harmony with the
Comprehensive Plan, the existing uses on the site and the community; and
WHEREAS, the intent of this Development Agreement is to protect the rights of
Applicant's use and enjoyment of the Property while at the same time limiting any adverse impacts
of the development upon neighboring properties and the existing community and ensuring the
Property is developed in a manner consistent with Eagle's Comprehensive Plan and City Code; and
WHEREAS, the Applicant has agreed to the use restrictions and other limitations set forth
herein upon the use and development of the Property and has consented to an R3R2-DA
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1 (Residential Three Two with a development agreement) zoning designation for the Property with
the requirements set forth in this Development Agreement; and
WHEREAS, the Applicant has previously provided Eagle with an affidavit agreeing to
submit the Property to a Development Agreement pursuant to Eagle City Code Section 8-10-
1(C)(1); and
WHEREFORE, the Applicant and the City of Eagle desire to resolve the issues and
concerns that have arisen and for and in consideration of the mutual covenants contained herein,
it is agreed as follows:
ARTICLE I
CONDITIONS OF DEVELOPMENT
2.1 The development shall contain no more that twelve (12) residential units.
2.2 The development shall not exceed 1.82 units per acre.
2.3 All development within the Property shall be consistent with the Design
Guidelines and generally consistent with the Concept Plan attached hereto as
Exhibit B (the "Concept Plan"). The Concept Plan attached hereto describes the
general nature and relative location of certain elements for Countryland
Subdivision. The intent of the Agreement is to allow sufficient flexibility at the
time of detailed planning and platting while still maintaining the general intent of
the Concept Plan with the requirements set forth in this Agreement.
2.4 All buildable lots along the western property line adjacent to Timberland Estates
Subdivision shall be a minimum of 17,000 sq. ft. in size.
2.5 All lots located along the western property line adjacent to Timberland Estates
Subdivision shall comply with the height and area regulations for the R-2 zone
contained in ECC 8-2-4.
242.6 All lots located along the eastern property line adjacent to Countryside
Estates Subdivision shall be a minimum of 12,223 sq. ft. in size.
2.7 All lots located along the eastern property line adjacent to Countryside Estates
Subdivision shall comply with the height and area regulations for the R-3 zone
contained in ECC 8-2-4.
276-2.8 The applicant shall obtain a license agreement from ITD to allow the right-
of-way
ightofway between this property and the edge of pavement along State Highway 44
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and the interior streets to be landscaped prior to the City of Eagle signing the fmal
plat.
27-7-2.9 A letter of approval shall be provided to the City from the Eagle Sewer
District indicating that the property has been annexed into the Eagle Sewer
District's service boundaries and approving the fmal construction plans prior to
submittal of the fmal plat application.
278-2.10 All structures (shops, barns, sheds, etc.) within the required setbacks for
the R-3 zone shall be removed prior to the clerk signing the final plat. Demolition
permits shall be obtained from the City of Eagle Building Department prior to the
removal of the structures.
279-2.11 The septic system for the existing house located on Lot 5, Block 2 shall be
abandoned prior to the city clerk signing the final plat. Proper permits shall be
obtained from prior to the removal of the septic system and copies provided to
the City of Eagle.
2.12 The landscape strip located between the curb and sidewalk shall not be used to
store, treat, or convey stormwater. All runoff shall be routed through pipes or
curbing to the designated storm treatment and containment areas.
2.13 The existing well for the existing house located on Lot 5, Block 2 shall be
disconnected from domestic use and certification from United Water of Idaho of
connection to a municipal system prior to the city clerk signing the fmal plat.
2.11 2.14 Lot 3, Block 1 shall be developed so to eliminated access to State
Highway 44 and all access to the development shall be taken from W. Skywood
Drive.
ARTICLE II
AFFIDAVIT OF PROPERTY OWNERS
3.1 An affidavit of all owners of the Property agreeing to submit the Property to this
Development Agreement and to the provisions set forth in Idaho Code Section 67-6511A and
Eagle City Code Section 8-10-1 shall be provided and is incorporated herein by reference.
ARTICLE II
DEFAULT
4.1 In the event the Applicant fails to comply with the commitments set forth herein, within
thirty (30) days of written notice of such failure from Eagle, Eagle shall have the right,
without prejudice to any other rights or remedies, to cure such default or enjoin such
violation and otherwise enforce the requirements contained in this Development Agreement
or to terminate the Development Agreement following the process established in Eagle City
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Code Section 8-10-1.
4.2 If required to proceed in a court of law or equity to enforce any provision of this
Development Agreement, Eagle shall be entitled to recover all direct out-of-pocket costs so
incurred to cure or enjoin such default and to enforce the commitments contained in this
Development Agreement, including attorneys' fees and court costs.
ARTICLE IV
UNENFORCEABLE PROVISIONS
5.1 If any term, provision, commitment, or restriction of this Development Agreement or the
application thereof to any party or circumstances shall, to any extent, be held invalid or
unenforceable, the remainder of this instrument shall terminate and the zoning of the property
shall revert to the A -R (Agricultural Residential) zoning designation unless the portion of this
instrument determined to be invalid or unenforceable is re -negotiated in good faith between the
Applicant (or other appropriate party) and Eagle as an amendment to the Development
Agreement processed in accordance with the notice and hearing provisions of Idaho Code
Section 67-6509, as required by Eagle City Code Section 8-10-1.
ARTICLE V
ASSIGNMENT AND TRANSFER
6.1 After its execution, the Development Agreement shall be recorded in the office of the County
Recorder at the expense of the Applicant. Each commitment and restriction on the
development shall be a burden on the Property, shall be appurtenant to and for the benefit of
the Property, adjacent property, and other residential property near the Property and shall run
with the land. This Development Agreement shall be binding on the Applicant and owners,
and their respective heirs, administrators, executors, agents, legal representatives, successors,
and assigns; provided, however, that if all or any portion of the development is sold, the
sellers shall thereupon be released and discharged from any and all obligations in connection
with the property sold arising under this Agreement. The new owner of the Property or any
portion thereof (including, without limitation, any owner who acquires its interest by
foreclosure, trustee's sale or otherwise) shall be liable for all commitments and other
obligations arising under this Agreement with respect to the Property or portion thereof.
ARTICLE VI
GENERAL MATTERS
7.1 Amendments. Any alteration or change to this Development Agreement shall be made only
after complying with the notice and hearing provisions of Idaho Code Section 67-6509, as
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required by Eagle City Code Section 8-10-1.
7.2 Paragraph Headings. This Development Agreement shall be construed according to its fair
meaning and as if prepared by both parties hereto. Titles and captions are for convenience
only and shall not constitute a portion of this Development Agreement. As used in this
Development Agreement, masculine, feminine or neuter gender and the singular or plural
number shall each be deemed to include the others wherever and whenever the context so
dictates.
7.3 Choice of Law. This Development Agreement shall be construed in accordance with the
laws of the State of Idaho in effect at the time of the execution of this Development
Agreement. Any action brought in connection with this Development Agreement shall be
brought in a court of competent jurisdiction located in Ada County, Idaho.
7.4 Legal Representation. Both the Applicant and Eagle acknowledge that they each have been
represented by legal counsel in negotiating this Development Agreement and that neither
party shall have been deemed to have been the draftor of this agreement.
7.5 Notices. Any notice which a party may desire to give to another party must be in writing and
may be given by personal delivery, by mailing the same by registered or certified mail, return
receipt requested postage prepaid, or by Federal Express or other reputable overnight delivery
service, to the party to whom the notice is directed at the address of such party set forth
below;
Eagle: City of Eagle
310 E. State St.
Eagle, Idaho 83616
Owner: JLJ Enterprises, Inc.
1560 Carol Street
Meridian, Idaho 83642
Or such other address and to such other persons as the parties may hereafter designate. Any
such notice shall be deemed given upon receipt if by personal delivery, forty-eight (48) hours
after deposit in the United States mail, if sent by mail pursuant to the foregoing, or twenty-
four (24) hours after timely deposit with a reputable overnight delivery service.
7.6 Effective Date. This Development Agreement shall be effective upon the signing and
execution of this agreement by both parties.
7.7 Termination. This agreement terminates upon completion of Conditions of Development or
after 7 -years after the Effective Date, whichever occurs first.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties have executed this Development Agreement.
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DATED this day of , 2006.
CITY OF EAGLE, a municipal corporation
organized and existing under the laws of the State of
Idaho
By:
ATTEST:
Sharon K. Bergmann, City Clerk
Nancy C. Merrill, Mayor
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STATE OF IDAHO )
: ss.
County of Ada)
On this day of , 2006, before the undersigned notary public in and for
the said state, personally appeared NANCY C. MERRILL, known or identified to me to be the
Mayor of the City of Eagle and the person who executed the foregoing instrument on behalf of
said City and acknowledged to me that said City executed the same.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and seal the day and year first
above written.
Notary Public for Idaho
Residing at:
My Commission Expires:
By:
STATE OF IDAHO )
: ss.
County of Ada)
Chad Moffat, Managing Member
On this day of , 2006, before the undersigned notary public in and for
the said state, personally appeared , known or identified to me to be the
managing member of Park Lane Development , LLC. Owner of the property referenced herein.
and the persons who executed the foregoing instrument.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and seal the day and year first
above written.
Notary Public for Idaho
Residing at:
My Commission Expires:
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Photo Index — Coronado CA Craftsman
1. Newer construction utilizing shutters that match the accents colors on
the fascia
2. Older residence showing distinctive features and stone accents
3. Older beach bungalow that used Craftsman features in the renovation
4. Classic old Craftsman from early 1900's
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The next item is the requirement that we add decorative trim around all 268 of the
existing windows. To accomplish this, we would have to cut brittle 12 year-old siding
and hope that we can repair any breakage, open up each building envelope an average of
27 times and hope that we do not create any water intrusion problems where none now
exist, and then reseal all of the new joints we are creating. Our issue with this is that we
can accomplish virtually the same thing — a more aesthetically appealing window by
using decorative Craftsman shutters that only require us to drill 4-8 holes with a high
speed drill to mount each shutter. In our opinion, the requirement that we add trim to the
268 windows carries much higher risk than reward. We feel the risk of damaging the
building envelope and the possibility of future water intrusion far outweigh the aesthetic
improvement to the buildings. Many of the other Craftsman elements we have already
incorporated into the project have far greater visual impact on the aesthetics without
taking unnecessary construction risk.
V Last, the requirement that we add a vertical stone element to all four sides of the first
floor of the existing buildings is very puzzling to us. We have thoroughly examined the
city's own list of Craftsman elements, numerous academic articles on the Craftsman
architectural style, and visually viewed almost 100 examples of classic Craftsman in
residential settings and we have concluded that this requirement is not compliant with the
city's design manualor true Craftsman style. Where stone is used as a vertical element on
the face of a residential building, it almost always appears on just the front face of the
building and ends below the first floor window frame. Other typical uses of stone are to
accent porches, in exposed chimneys, and as a wrap around supporting columns. We are
prepared to add stone in appropriate locations that are consistent with our goal of
transforming these older plain buildings into something more in line with a pure
Craftsman look, but we do not feel it is appropriate to add the amount of stone specified
in this condition.
In conclusion, we feel that the first two requirements in this site specific condition are not
practical or feasible and that the third requirement is not compliant with the Craftsman
style we are attempting to create. We ask council to adopt all of the recommendations of
Design Review except for this site specific condition and ask that this condition be
removed for the reasons presented. We are dealing with older buildings that we did not
design or build and we have made a good faith effort to meet the city's new architectural
elements in planning this project. I have been told by Mr. Murray that we have satisfied a
majority of the elements listed in the city's manual and given what we are starting with
we think that should be enough to move this project forward. We look forward to
obtaining your approval tonight so that we can finalize our condominium plat and begin
work on the project as soon as possible.
Thank you for your time and attention. Are there any questions?
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Colony Concerns
• Lack of Master Plan
• Density
• Mixed Use Designation
• Collector Road Location
"I would just like to not caution the Council, but ask the Council if they would maybe
consider a little bit of increased density along there along the high school. It makes
total sense.
One acre Tots are privacy lots. We found that out in Countryside. It is a special critter.
It's special type of buyer that buys one acre Tots. They like their privacy. They like
their peace.
You don't get that right up next to a high school when you have drums playing at ball
games going on up until 10:00 at night. It's a not a privacy lot any more. And so the
marketing capability of marketing one acre lots up next to Eagle High is going to be
extremely tough. So I think those are some of the considerations you need to take
into account when you designate this area."
Mr. Tom Ricks
September 7th, 2004
Motion
"I make a motion that we amend our previous decision for the Park
Lane Planning area, that the land uses north of Flint Estates
designate a transition increase of residential density from east to
west ensuring compatibility with the one acre lots in The
Colony Subdivision, and increasing in density not to exceed
three homes per acre near the Eagle High School."
gvIr. ,Scott Woristrom
September 7th, 2004
This motion was seconded by Mr. Stan Bastian, voted and
carried that same night.
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Summary
• Master Plan
• Density in Compliance with the
Comprehensive Plan (define
"transitional residential")
• Residential Zoning (not Mixed Use)
• Location of the Collector Road
determined